Substandard Jeff/Jane Rants And Comments

Just because somebody says they don't like "Jane The Killer" doesn't mean they have good reason, that they also dislike Jeff The Killer, or that they are even talking about the real Jane The Killer. Put it another way, just because they say they don't like either killer doesn't mean they aren't still creepy pasta fangirl/boys or trolls.

Let's mangle through a pile of rants/comments that serve as an example of the substandard stuff that can get one shunted down to the idiot showcase rather than promoted as a source of good information/reading. Certainly not all the comments here are annoying, there are lots that are, though.

1.

stop treating jane the killer special

by vampirelilkayla, Jul 6, 2013, 2:18:01 PM

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Ugh. That handle.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: shes not!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: True.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla:: 1:shes a mary sue which means shes a wench (edit)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: She would be a wench whether or not she is a Mary Sue, simply because she's a killer with a brattitude, foul-mouthed, horribly sadistic and hypocritical.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla:: 2:she hates jeff for no reason

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That doesn't make her a Mary Sue, but her hate is a fraud since she's just as bad as Jeff.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: :3: if jeff beat her the first time shell get her arse (edit) kicked again

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That doesn't make her a Mary Sue. It also doesn't make her a bad character. Lots of people got their guts ripped out by Jeff and by Jane, does that make them bad characters? No.

If you're going to hate a character, come up with real, better reasons than that.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: 4:she wont kill girls or babies only jeff fangirls and boys

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Wrong. She killed at least one couple, and her body count is 211 plus. Don't tell me the rest were men and Jeff fangirls only.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: 5:shes a wanna be creepypasta

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No. She is a creepy pasta. She is a wanna-be Jeff.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: 6:shes the girl version of jeff whos a wench (edit)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: There you go with that word agin, that I keep having to edit. You're sounding more and more like a Mary Sue who just hates Jane for being female. If you turn out to be a Jeff fangirl, I will have a seizure of face palming.

Yes, she is the girl version of Jeff, which stinks IMO. Not a character in her own right. It's obvious she was created in response to Jeff The Killer.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: 7:you know what SHES CRAPPY!THE WORST IF YOU LIKE HER THATS YOUR OPNIONION IM JUST TIRED OF EVERYONE TREATING HER LIKE SHES SOME SORT OF GOD...

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I'm tired of people treating both her and Jeff that way. They are both crappy.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: 8:STOP MAKING JEFF X JANE I MAY LIKE LINK X DARK LINK BUT JEFF X JANE NO!JUST NO THERE MORTAL ENIMIES!DeMN wenCH! (edit)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Neither are cut out for loving anyone but themselves.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: sorry for this rant but SERIOUSLY SHES NOT SPECIAL!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I agree, she isn't special. at least, not in a positive sense.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: HER STORY NEVER SCARED ME I DONT THINK SHE SHOULD BE A CREEPYPASTA

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Just because she doesn't scare you doesn't mean she shouldn't be a creepy pasta. That's actually why she is one and not a published horror book.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: THATS WHY I DONT USE HER I NEVER WANNA HEAR ANYONE GO "OH JANE WILL KICK JEFF'S ArSe!" (edit)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: You will never hear that from me. I wouldn't give either of them the satisfaction of killing each other.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla: WELL NO THATS NOT THE CASE HE KICKED HER ArSe (edit) ONCE HELL DO IT AGAIN!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No he didn't. He nearly killed Jane Arkensaw, he never got near Jane The Killer (Richardson) that was another dude back in 2002 who killed her parents.

😸RandomPurpleKitty9 Aug 2, 2014 Student General Artist

Im just wondering, do you know that there are two Jane The Killers ( Arkensaw/Everlasting ) and (Richardson ) ?

🦔NikkiTheHedgeBat Jul 23, 2014

Rivalry with Jeff...pfffff. Easy and simple.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Exactly.

😍Mjisawesome1013 Sep 24, 2013 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Now, before I say anything, I'm perfectly okay with you not liking Jane. It's fine by me.

But I think you're ranting about something you know nothing about.

1. I have to admit, Jane IS an under developed character, but that doesn't mean she's a Sue. Was she a Mary Sue at one point? Possibly. But with a little effort, her creepypasta could become a good one.

2. If you read her original creepypasta, she hates Jeff because:

•He burnt her house to a crisp

•He killed her family

•He disfigured her face in the process of trying to make her "beautiful"

3. Question; When did he first fight her? The only time they fought was in Jeff vs Jane. If you are talking about when he set her house on fire and all that stuff, she didn't really fight. He knocked her out, then proceeded to tie her to a chair. Not really fighting, being she didn't try to fight.

4. We're actually not sure of who or what she won't kill, so I can't say too much about this.

5. I might agree with this, but I don't think there are 'wanna be' creepypastas just in general. Some just aren't as popular as others.

6. Now, if Jeff looked like Jane (The guy version of Jane), I would agree with you. But he doesn't. The girl version of Jeff would look just like him, but with the female parts, just like if Jane was a boy, the boy version of her would look like her buy with the male parts.

7. Calm down, sweetie, no one treats her like a god. We treat her like all the other creepypastas.

8. I agree Jeff x Jane isn't the greatest ship in the world, because Jane's gay, but people with ship what they want to ship. I ship BEN x Sally, you ship Jeff x Liu, this one ships Jeff x Slenderman, the next guy ships Jane x Jeff, doesn't matter. As long as we're enjoying creepypastas, everything is good.

Like I said before, if you don't like Jane, that's cool! You don't like Jane too much, I don't like Jeff too much. It's all cool. I just think you might want to get your facts right before you rant.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: 1. Shipping is way overdone and it's bad enough when well known famous characters are mangled for the sake of some lust-match, but it makes no sense when it comes to these creepy pasta killers. All of those characters aren't capable of love toward anything other than themselves, and they kill for fun.

Then there's the whole mega ew cringe factor. Shipping Ben and Sally? Ugh! Ben is a computer file. Sally is an 8-year-old girl. So that ship would make Ben not only weird, but a pedophile.

Shipping Jeff and Liu? Eww! They are brothers for crying out loud! That's freaking incest! So no, it's definitely not all cool!

This shipping crud is the biggest reason I'm pretty much turned off fan fiction. The "fanfiction" I write doesn't have shipping crud in it, or pairings other than those already in a show/series/book, and fan-made characters can pair off and romance generally isn't my thing anyway.

2. You're also confusing the two Janes here. Jane Arkensaw was the one whose parents Jeff killed. Jane Richardson (the real Jane The Killer) is the one who's gay, or bi, whatever.

3. "no one treats her like a god. We treat her like all the other creepypastas."

That's just it. Creepy pastas themselves, the whole genre, if it can be called that, is treated like a god. People either say they hate it because it creeps them out or they whinge about some story or other not scaring them, so therefore, they think that story doesn't deserve the *cough* honour of having the classification of "creepy pasta" bestowed upon it. So basically they either fear or love it. Hmm, sounds like near deification to me.

4. Both Janes are uber Sues. Jane Arkensaw does get a ridiculous amount of ego-stroking from other characters, especially Jeff's parents, and she's very busy telling the reader about all the glories of the things she's done, which is really nothing.

See how she ties the first part of her story in with Jeff's. and then goes on from there.

Jane Richardson gets practically swooned all over by characters who seem to be in some sort of race to kiss her behind, and when they aren't doing that, they're walking on egg shells, trying very hard not to get her mad at them. They go on endlessly praising her for no valid or convincing reasons. And, she does everything at the Shop where she works at the start of the story. She makes up recipes, prepares them, waits tables, answers their phone, and delivers an infomercial over the phone, promoting her stinking syrup recipe.

Then add to this the way fandoms react when somebody doesn't like their favourite character or pasta.

So it is evident that certain creepy pastas are being treated with a lot more reverence than they should be, and that's good reason to dislike any of them.

5. "But it's all good as long as "we enjoy creepy pasta" well, there again, it sounds pretty much like the love of creepy pasta is the most important thing, which sounds a bit like near deifying the genre.

6. No, what actually matters is what you as an individual like.

It's more than okay to dislike creepy pasta because of its origins, its fandom, and its many awful, unreliable characters that fandoms have made a trend of going crazy over.

👽XxInvaderAmberxX Jun 29, 2014

If you read her character bio, it makes her out as a MAJOR Sue, because it states that she has everlasting youth, she can heal herself, and she has "supernatural powers." :iconmarysueplz:

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Sep 25, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

im nt reading tht all i hate her case closed srryyyyyyyyy SO THANK U FOR UNDERSTANDING N HAVE A NICE DAY..ppl need to stop telling me this crap (edit) because they did fight again 2nd..i ahte her

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Ugh! Eww, gross, that was painful to try and read.

😍Mjisawesome1013 Sep 25, 2013 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

And that's perfectly fine if you don't like her! You just had some information wrong in your rant, that's all.

And just a question, did you comment on one of my devianations on my old account, :iconmjisawesome101301:? Your username looks familiar.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Sep 26, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

idk....dont htinks so idk....

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Aaaah!

👹CreepyJC Jul 13, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

I think you're ranting about Jane when you barely know anything about her...

#1: Jane hates Jeff because (as in the creepypasta written for her COUGHCOUGHCOUGH) he killed her family and disfigured her face, and then gifted her with a beautfiul mask.

#2: She is an underdeveloped character, but she isn't necessarily a Sue. Or at least that's my opinion. I think she gets too much hate but I don't like her that much. I just hate the Jeff-worshiping bloodthirsty fangirls that explode at the mere mention of her, and she's not a bad character.

#3: She's not a girl version (or genderbent to be correct) of Jeff. She just has a hatred for Jeff and partakes in the same activities as he.

#4: Calm your t(censored), girly. Noone treats her like a god...well, I'm assuming that you have a shrine of Jeff in your closet and write bad fanfics and are full of butthurt...

#12347: SHE'S. A. LESBIAN.

Techinally, in Jeff Vs. Jane I think it was a tie. Jeff was in the hospital in the end and Jane died (and had a baby le spoiler)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That comment was TRASH! Get over your freaking bust-lust. You could've said "Calm yourself down" but you did the typical MGTOW micromeme and brought the idea of a girl's figure into it. *Scowl* You also used "butthurt" which is a common term used by trolls. Moron.

The only thing worth saying was "I just hate the Jeff-worshiping bloodthirsty fangirls that explode at the mere mention of her,"

Same here, but I also have no tolerance for the reverse where people get all bent out of shape over someone disliking Jane The Killer Richardson. And since you like her, well...👎

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 13, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

I DONT WANNA HEAR IT IM TIRED OF EVERYONE TRATING HER SPECIAL SO IM NOT READING THIS

👹CreepyJC Jul 14, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

yep, just another butthurt 11-year-old...

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Rolling eyes* Second troll comment. The use of "butthurt" gives it away every time.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 14, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

WHATS THAT SUPOSED TO MEAN hamgod(edit)...........i just dont wanna hear it no one is gonna make me like her

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Don't blaspheme! I changed that to an utterance of a notorious fictional deity of a Mary Sue.

And his/her comment means s/he's a 4chan denizen or has picked up troll-speak from someone else who is a troll.

👹CreepyJC Jul 14, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

Either you're the most ignorant fangirl ever, a troll or you're just an idiot...

I don't need to be here trying to ram these facts into your thick skull. I'm sorry that I'm being rude but you're no better

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: You are also a troll and probably a fanboy. Or fangirl.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 14, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

:'( THAT HURT MY FEELINGS AND I JUST FOUND OUT SOMETHING THATS DEPRESSING 2ND I JUSTR DONT WANNA HEAR IT IF YOU ONT AGREE WITH ME I RESPECT THAT BUT YOU DONT NEED TO BE YELLING AT ME YOU CAN LIKE HER I JUST DONT I LIKED HER AT FIRST THEN AFTER MAYEBE 2 DAYS I STOPPED!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Such quickly changeable moods/states of mind. Typical fangirls get bored super fast like that.

🍬MonochromaticCandy Jul 6, 2013 Professional General Artist

As much as I agree, don't rant about tucking everything.

If people wanna like Jane, so be it.

I personally think she is horrible, but do you see ME ranting to the world about it?

No. It's wasting time to just rant rant rant about every single thing you come across to disliking. :iconsighingplz:

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Hey, ranting is fine. Nobody should have to just shut up and keep everything all inside just because that's what works for you.

Besides, the more people get their opinions out there, the more likely they are to find others who turn out to agree with them, and that's a great thing in the world of fandoms where everything is so one-sided and polarizing.

My main frustration is that I can't seem to find very many good rants out there, because - well, I went into that at the top of this page.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

HANG ON DONT YELL AT ME GET YOUR ArSe (edit) BACK IN THE CAR 2ND EVEN PEOPLE WHO HATE ANTI OR HATE STUFF AND DONT WRITE ABOUT HATING IT SLIP UP SOMETIMES OR HAVE THE ERGE AND DO IT!

🍬MonochromaticCandy Jul 6, 2013 Professional General Artist

....If I'm going to be forced to do this crap, (edit) then bye bye to you...

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Buh-bye, don't let the door hit your derriere on the way out!

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

ok....im sorry for ranting so much...EVERYONE WANTS TO RANT and i couldnt contains myself

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: If you also dislike Jeff, don't apologize to these people. The net could use a heck of a lot more opposition to annoying fandoms and fads.

If you do like Jeff, then yeah, your rant was a waste.

🍬MonochromaticCandy Jul 6, 2013 Professional General Artist

Tucking was supposed to be flaring... (edit)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I figured as much. I prefer my substitution. People so fond of tossing f-bombs might as well be flaring.

👻GhostFreakFan01 Jul 6, 2013

Jeff is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than her!!!!!!! (she kind of ruined his fandom)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Scowl&facepalm* People like you make me lose a little more faith in the human race.

Fandoms are bad enough over famous series and characters, and incomprehensible over sadistic killer characters.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

IKR

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Oh - my - gosh!

Okay then, you really have no reason to rant. *Rolling eyes in disgust* Another Jeff fangirl after all. And using the dreaded "IKR" Oh, this is such trash. That's why it's ended up in the substandard section.

*Facepalms repeatedly*

👻GhostFreakFan01 Jul 6, 2013

I made a completely different version of her.....( im taking to make her better)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Knock yourself out. I won't be stopping by to read any of it though.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

IF I USE HER I DONJT WANT JEFF NEAR HER SO HE WONT BE USED DAM N wenCH (edit)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, shut it, brat! I'm right out of patience with you, now that I know you're just another pathetic Jeff fangirl.

👻GhostFreakFan01 Jul 6, 2013

Yeah, there supposed to be rivals not lovers.....

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

I ONLY SUPORT LINK X DARK LINK BECAUSE I LOVE YAOI AND DONT READ BOY X GIRL 2ND JANE IS JUST A wenCH! (edit)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I don't give a crap about your stupid shipping. And please, try to come up with something other than that word to describe Jane. You sound just like her, or like any other Mary Sue fangirl who's cheesed off at another character for being the same gender as her. *Rolling eyes*

👻GhostFreakFan01 Jul 6, 2013

I love Yaoi,Straight couples,and Yuri :)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I don't care...

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

i prefer yaoi and yuri

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I don't care.

It's all disgusting and stupid as far as I'm concerned.

🗣Shadilverlegacy Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

=3= I never liked Jane the first impression between me and her i did not like basically the first story I read bout her was a fanfic.... It sucked monkey b(censored)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: There some other brain-stunted person goes with the genitalia thing again. *Scowl* Oh please, shut up.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

i liked her for few days weeks? idk but then hated her

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Huh? Days weeks? You can't even seem to decide on the time you changed your mind.

🗣Shadilverlegacy Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

Yeah she's a meh

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: So are fangirls.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

i killed her....

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Rolling eyes* I'd be all in favour of this if you weren't a fangirl for Jeff.

💩1-Jeffie-3 Jul 6, 2013 Student

DUDE, SERIOUSLY. GIVE ME AN EPIC HIGH FIVE.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Slap*

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

YES

💩1-Jeffie-3 Jul 6, 2013 Student

MY LIFE HAS BEEN... FULFILLED.

and i agree, Jane IS a mary-sue

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: So is any fangirl that crushes on a fictional character.

🧛‍♀️vampirelilkayla Jul 6, 2013 Hobbyist Writer

YES HOLA

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Whatever...

2.

MY MASTER'S THESIS ON WHY JANE THE KILLER IS A SUE

by PyraIsBored

👧🏻PyraIsBored: D... Ok now SERIOUSLY. How can you say she's not a mary-sue?

" Oh, she's a creepypasta character. She has grounds to be a sue."

Yes but she's more than that. She surpasses that! In fact, here's my reasons WHY she's a mary-sue

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I wouldn't call it grounds, but creepy pastas are substandard, so, expect Mary Sues.

👧🏻PyraIsBored: 1: Since when does a killer wear body glitter and perfume!? You KILL. You're not getting ready for your prom date that'll eventually end with you crying on the side of your bed because you got pregnant and dumped.

2: " I WILL KILL JEFF! I HATE JEFF!!!"

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That wouldn't be Mary Sue coming from a character who wasn't as disgusting and sadistic as Jeff himself. But because Jane is, she's a Mary Sue.

👧🏻PyraIsBored: :iconwatchoutplz: we got a badass over here!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Argh! You just used a meme! *Facepalm*

👧🏻PyraIsBored So. You want to kill him? Why?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: She has no reason, though she claims he killed her parents, but that was back in 2002, way before Jeff The Killer was doing much more than killing songbirds.

👧🏻PyraIsBored: "I HATE HIM!!!"

Cool kiddo. That's a REALLY stupid reason. I'm guessing you're either on your period,

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: You just torpedoed your whole rant with this sexist drivel. *Scowl* What's your excuse then, too much testosterone?

👧🏻PyraIsBored: Jeff was the guy that got you preggers and dumped you right after or you were a 12-year-old BRAT who stayed up late and saw Jeff's picture followed by getting the jimmies scared out of you as well as getting your training bra in a knot, followed by the plan to "KILL HIM!" Alright.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Wrong. So very wrong, and nothing at all to back up your case for why Jane is a Mary Sue. This is just more mind-in-pants drivel.

Jane is much older than Jeff, actually. She's just mad at him because she's pretending he's the one who killed her parents. And then she goes around killing innocent people, pretending they are Jeff. Considering all that, the fact anybody still likes her, makes her a Mary Sue.

👧🏻PyraIsBored :iconfinegeezplz:

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Another meme. *Rolling eyes* This rant is definitely substandard.

👧🏻PyraIsBored: Also, no, I don't hate her because she killed Jeff which is pretty bullcrappy. (edit) I honestly don't care. MY gripes with her is that she's a sue.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Yes, it is convoluted bullcrap. But in our stuff, neither of them get to kill each other.

👧🏻PyraIsBored: 3: Compare: images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__c… to images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__c…

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Yawn*

👧🏻PyraIsBored: 4: It's just Jeff. Very angry Jeff. With b(censored) and a v(censored slapped on. :| ...

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Oh please. *Scowl* Get over sex already. You could've been a lot more classy and said that Jane is a female version, Aka gender-bend of Jeff.

Your rant sucks a lot more than it explains anything.

👧🏻PyraIsBored: So. Here's my rant and reasons as to WHY Jane is a sue. Also. JANE the killer? Hmmm... that name isn't based off of JEFF. No way! :iconfinegeezplz

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Was it really necessary to use a meme twice?