democrat Bernie Sanders, running against Hillary Clinton in the 2016 US election race, wrote a tasteless excuse of a "satire" over 40 years ago, which would be utterly condemned and laughed at by the democrats for the next 40 years if it had been a republican who had written it. Even though it was a left-wing magazine that dug it up, the democrats really wanted this swept under the rug, quick!
Not much chance of that now, since the subject generated a meme that even the now hopelessly corrupted Snopes couldn't ignore.
🙍♂️Meme: According to liberals with IQs smaller than their sock size, conservative presidential candidates absolutely LOATHE women, hate them with a passion even.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: That's why they dogpiled all over Sarah Palin, but hailed Hillary Clinton. To their mythology, conservative women shouldn't even exist. Or if they do, they are supposed to fit neatly into the "Yess, sir!" box and do everything their husbands tell them... That's why Hillary "I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar!" Clinton continues her insane "war on women" blather, blaming conservative women for losing her the 2016 US election.
It's all here.
🙍♂️Meme: Those mean, old, white guys — which is a hilarious stereotype given there’s latinos, blacks, and women in the top spots for the GOP
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No, not hilarious. Only a troll still calls that hilarious. But then, this is a meme...
🙍♂️Meme: — want nothing more than to destroy women’s health care by defunding the ghoulish Planned Parenthood, and encourage rape culture with their antiquated views on gender roles.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Everybody needs to shut up and calm down about gender already. To heck with gender roles, stop whining... Let people do what they're good at...
As for "Planned Parenthood", forget abortion. That subject is strictly off limits for this site... The problem with them besides they are actually a zero-population growth organization and not a humanitarian one as liberals would have us believe, their founder was a true racist.
🙍♂️Meme: None of this is actually true, of course, but when have facts ever got in the way of the liberal agenda?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Or memes that target conservatives? Just because this one happens to be true doesn't mean they all are, not by a long shot.
🙍♂️Meme: What should really make you scratch your head is how lefties will rake conservatives over the coals for the things mentioned above, yet say absolutely nothing about this atrocious Bernie Sanders quote:
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: What also makes me scratch my head is how conservatives say nothing when memes and trolls appear to be on their side, but really aren't.
The media system is definitely broken and won't get fixed until two things happen - mainstream ditches its leftwing bias, and conservatives ditch spreading memes in favour of rooting out and debunking every left-wing meme they find. It's time to turn the tide.
Now, about the Bernie Sanders essay...
The sludge piece starts out talking about some disgusting twisted couple and their sick rape fantasy, then goes on moaning about gender stereotypes that the left is always whinging about yet keep perpetuating.
You know what's coming. Can you feel the heat yet?
Rape is not a joke, not a laughing matter - at all - and should never, *EVER* be included in any satire! Sanders and his supporters are playing it down as a "stupid attempt at dark satire" but this is way beyond stupid. It is depraved, evil, and this whole excuse about highlighting bad gender stereotypes, oh honestly, the world doesn't need any more of those, and that excuse won't fly.
🙎♂️💩Man, And Woman
By Bernie Sanders
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: A man goes home and masturbates
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ewww, T…M…I…!
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: his typical fantasy.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Typical fantasies do not involve rape unless you are a sadistic creep who should be locked up…
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: A woman on her knees,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Furious scowl*
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: a woman tied up,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Does this creep thrill at pictures of injured children too? *Glare*
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: a woman abused,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Well duh, I would think being forced to your knees and tied up pretty much constitutes abuse, idiot!
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: A woman enjoys intercourse with her man
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ugh. TMI.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: — as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: EEEEEWWWWW! *Scowl* No!
At least, not this woman. I would be having absolutely none of that!
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: The man and woman get dressed up on Sunday — and go to Church, or maybe to their 'revolutionary' political meeting.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: In the case of this twisted sadomasochistic kinky couple, I'd stick with revolutionary meeting.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: Have you ever looked at the Stag, Man, Hero, Tough magazines on the shelf of your local bookstore?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No. They don't interest me in the least.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: Do you know why the newspaper with the articles like 'Girl 12 raped by 14 men' sell so well?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No! *Scowl*
Tell you what. I don't buy trash.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: To what in us are they appealing?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Nothing over here. I can't speak for anyone else, let alone people who would actually enjoy reading about something like that.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: Women adapt themselves to fill the needs of men, and men adapt themselves to fill the needs of women.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: That's called living. All social beings, regardless of gender, adapt to live in their group, troop, flock, herd, whatever... Adaptation is just a part of life. p>🧝♀️Oh, but you're only talking gender claptrap because you're paranoid about "gender roles"... Your so-called "adapting" is only a thing because the media and peer pressure is saying it's so.
There are those of us about who don't spend our lives trying to "adapt" ourselves to meet someone else's needs. We give help, support, and even love when and where it is honestly felt and needed. If we feel we are being used, we're not afraid to extricate ourselves from the bad relationship, even if we have to face some heart ache for a while, pick ourselves up and move on.
I refuse to fit neatly into any little boxes everybody wants to shove me into. I prefer to captain my own ship. That will continue until I can find a place that makes me feel at home. If other likeminded people want to join me, they are more than welcome. Otherwise, have a nice life.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: In the beginning there were strong men who killed the animals and brought home the food — and the dependent women who cooked it.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No. If you want to go with the hunter gatherer thing, the dependency went both ways. The men were also dependent on the women to keep house while they were out hunting, On farms, everybody had chores, and were dependent on everyone doing their part.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: No More! Only the roles remain — waiting to be shaken off.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Stop having conniptions over so-called gender-roles and live your own life as you see fit. Unless the SJW crowd on your side completely overwhelms the system and turns the civilized world into a feminist dystopia, we still have the freedom to be who we want to be regardless of gender... Cut the histrionics as well. Stop dwelling on the so-called caveman days. You and your SJW are the only ones trying to put us all back there over and over and over again! Get out of North America and go champion your cause in places that really need it. Try North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia for starters. How about Mali, the Sudans, should I go on? Or are you too afraid of trampoline over their "freedom of religion"?
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: There are no ‘human’ oppressors, Oppressors have lost their humanity.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: I figured that out long ago. But oppression isn't gender-specific. Men and women have been both oppressors and oppressed throughout history. We just haven't heard the full extent of it because not all accounts were written down.
And then there are people like me who are neither oppressor nor oppressed, and you most definitely are not oppressed.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: Slavishness on one hand breeds pigness on the other hand. Pigness on one hand breeds slavishness on the other.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: But you're conveniently forgetting to mention that slavishness and pigness knows no gender. Slaves and pigs come in both...
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: On one hand ‘slavishness,’ on the other hand ‘pigness.’ Six of one, half dozen of the other. Who wins?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No one in that equation.
So how about this instead?
Ditch your whole model for one of real equality (not to be confused with alikeness), and we get people who are not dominant or submissive, but respectful of themselves and others, also leading in some areas, following in others, without being oppressive or subservient.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: Men and women — both are losers.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Wow, all this twisted buildup to your insulting the whole human race - yourself included!
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: Many women seem to be walking a tightrope now.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Lots of people feel they're walking a tightrope, and gender has nothing to do with it.
My idea of a tightrope is not about gender, it's about cruel VS. not cruel, and a subject for another time.
Bernie Sanders: Their qualities of love, openness, and gentleness were too deeply enmeshed with qualities of dependency, subservience, and masochism.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: You're only talking about the disgusting pathetic twists who go for the bad guys.
I'm not among those.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: How do you love — without being dependent?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Love is love. Dependency is dependency. There is a huge difference, and there can definitely be one without the other. Neither has anything to do with the sick fantasy scenarios described in the above.
If you love someone, you're not going to abuse them or let them abuse you. If you are co-dependent on them, you are more likely to abuse or let them do it to you.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: How do you be gentle — without being subservient?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: WTH kind of stupid question is that? Gentle and subservient are two totally different things!
A thug torturing a captive is subservient to the regime or gang or whatever tells him or her to do this. is he or she being gentle? Heck no! Ditto for the girl who drags in other girls or children to be abused by her and some mate that's the dominant one to her. So is she being gentle? Of course not!
How about the cool, calm and collected person in authority who has to get an obnoxious raving idiot escorted out the door, off the property etc. in order to carry on some discussion. This person doesn't beat the idiot senseless, but removes them without causing them bodily harm. Gentle? Definitely. Subservient? Heck no!
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: How do you maintain a relationship without giving up your identity and without getting strung out?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: If you haven't got this figured out, you're not ready to be in a relationship. You can't depend on other people to define who you are or to make you happy. You will be let down and left with one person every time, yourself. So you need to work on knowing who you are and how to be content with yourself first, and then accept no one else who wants to change you into something you are not just to please them.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: How do you reach out and give your heart to your lover, but maintain the soul which is you?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: See above. Also know that like it or not, love sometimes hurts, badly. It's just a sad part of life.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: Women, for their own preservation, are trying to pull themselves together,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Not just women. Humanity... Some are trying to pull themselves together, but others are trying to tear things apart, regardless of gender.., and sometimes, in the case of the feminists and Mgtow, because of it.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: And it’s necessary for all of humanity that they do so.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No. That will never work, nor should it. A communist utopia or more like dystopia is the last thing we should be aspiring to. Ditch the women VS. men thing. Just drop it, and the world will at least be better able to pull itself together a little more.
But it will never happen completely. There are too many differing beliefs, opinions, governing systems, cultures/societies for the whole world to be one big happy...
"Togetherness" only works in smaller groups, usually dependent on things like agenda, things in common, even age.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: And Men. Men are in pain too. They are thinking, wondering. What is it they want from a woman? Are they at fault? Are they perpetrating this man-woman situation? Are they oppressors?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Feminism says yes it's all their fault and they are oppressors.
It's a bigoted sexist ideology that punishes or adores you based on what gender you are. In feminism, woman means inherently good, and man means inherently evil.
Real love and normalcy does not consist of oppressors and subservients, no matter how much feminism and meninism shriek and salivate for it to be otherwise.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: The man is bitter.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Mgtow and feminists are bitter... They hold dystopian world views that don't reflect reality in the first world. Feminism sees all men as violent victimizers who need to be "taught" not to rape. Meninism, especially MGTOW, see women as shallow, heartless, spoiled brat gold-diggers who want nothing from men except money, and they use marriage and fighting and ultimately divorce to get their hands on that gold.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: “You lied to me,” he said. (She did).
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Lied about what?
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: “You said that you loved me, that you wanted me, that you needed me. Those are your words.” (They are).
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: So who's talking now, him or her?
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: “But in reality,” he said, “If you ever loved me, or wanted me, or needed me (all of which I’m not certain was ever true), you also hated me. You hated me — just as you have hated every man in your entire life, but you didn’t have the guts to tell me that. You hated me before you ever saw me, even though I was not your father, or your teacher, or your sex friend when you were 13 years old, or your husband. You hated me not because of who I am, or what I was to you, but because I am a man. You did not deal with me as a person — as me. You lived a lie with me, used me and played games with me — and that’s a piggy thing to do.”
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: that sounds like a MGTOW who was screwed over by a feminist.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: And she said, “You wanted me not as a woman, or a lover, or a friend, but as a submissive woman, or submissive friend, or submissive lover; and right now where my head is I balk at even the slightest suspicion of that kind of demand.”
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: That sounds like a feminist who can't get everything her way, so is pulling a victim act. Or a woman starting to realize what a screw up choice she had made to be with a bad boy.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: And he said, “You’re full of _______.”
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: That could be one of three things.
1. A bad boy who's just had his ego bruised.
2. A bitter MGTOW/meninist who just doesn't believe anything coming from any woman.
3. A truly normal guy who got steamrolled over by some vicious brat who cheated or is just mad she can't always have everything her own way, and is trying to vilify him as the abuser he is actually not, to crush his heart and spirit, all because she knows she can probably get away with it in a society dominated by feminism.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: And they never again made love together (which they had each liked to do more than anything)
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Eww. Well they shouldn't have done the nasty to begin with. Seems they were more addicted to sex than interested in having a real relationship.
That's called animalistic.
🙎♂️💩Bernie Sanders: or never ever saw each other one more time.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Obviously just as well.
So long, screw-ups, try getting your priorities straight and better luck next time.
This site also has the essay, and a link to some reactions.