by Jeff Berwick
The Dollar Vigilante
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: "Patriautism" you know what that means.
Jeff Berwick is not only an anarchist, he is a troll... Trolls are always screaming "Autism!" and/or "Cancer!"
And this one just...never...shuts...up...!
👿Jeff Berwick: Oh, how I hate the Fourth of July. And Canada Day... and Dia de la Revolucion in Mexico. And any other day celebrating a nation state.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Because you hate nation-states and probably wish there were no countries - hey, didn't that come right out of John Lennon's "Imagine"? Figures.
👿Jeff Berwick: What an absolutely ridiculous concept, to celebrate your own enslavement.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: What an absolutely ridiculous concept, thinking the existence of countries is enslavement...
Slavery is against the law in the first world.
👿Jeff Berwick: As in most countries, the date chosen to celebrate your enslavement
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Nation's founding...Not enslavement...
👿Jeff Berwick: is usually the date when the nation state was founded or when it freed itself from the enslavement of another nation-state.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Unless there was no slavery permitted in any of the nations involved...
👿Jeff Berwick: In the case of the US, it broke free from the tyrannical rule of England
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Rolling eyes* I could just see that stink bomb coming from a mile away. Slavery was outlawed in England by the time the US broke away from it too... This isn't about slavery, it's about political higher-ups fighting for their own piece of land.
👿Jeff Berwick: in favor of a more local tyrannical rule.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Bull... We're going to skip over the actual slavery era in America and stick with the current time, because I'm sick to the back teeth with liberal histrionics, their forever dwelling on the bad old days when this group was treated like trash by that one because race/gender/blahblah...
The actual founding of a nation has nothing to do with that.
👿Jeff Berwick:: Hilariously, now, Barack Obomba cowtows and proudly extends his video greetings to the UK royal family from which the US seceded, talking about what a "special relationship" the US and the UK have. Not only does he seem to harbor no ill will for all the terrorist attacks done by the UK in the US during the times of succession, but he even seems to have put aside any resentment for the torture of his grandfather by the English under the rule of the very same Queen to which he now loves so deeply.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: What a pile of bullcrap!
So you actually want ill will between two countries over stuff that happened ages and ages and ages and ages ago... Nice.
I'm pretty sure Queen Elizabeth did not authorize or approve of any torture of Obama's grandfather or anyone else.
What is obvious to me is that you are deeply bigoted against England and you don't care for America much either.
And, "Obomba"? How old are you? Oh, right, you're a troll.
👿Jeff Berwick: In 1949, according to writings from his bizarre and mostly delusional, Dreams From My Father, who he never knew or met (mostly because his mother was a slut extraordinaire and an amateur porn star – see naked photos of her here),
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Nope, wrong, go wash your mind out...
👿Jeff Berwick: he says his paternal grandfather Hussein Onyango Obama, who served as a cook in the British Army, was imprisoned in 1949 by the British for helping the anti-colonial Mau Mau rebels and held for several months.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: I'm pretty sure that no matter whatever the heck country, being a prisoner of war is hell on earth, it could be Japan, it could be Iraq, it could be China, Russia, Turkey, England, Canada, the US. terrible, illegal things are done wherever prisoners of war are held... Because people holding these hostages don't play by the law and somehow managed to snake their way into power and did bad stuff before they were stopped.
This has nothing to do with celebrating the founding of a country...!
👿Jeff Berwick: During that time, according to Sarah Obama,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Who's Sarah Obama?
And I'm not interested in more horrific torture stories. Whatever you're on about was said to have happened in the 40s, back before I was even born for crying out loud, and you want to halt everybody's happy birthday for their country *now* by talking about horrible stuff that happened ages ago that should make it somehow a crime for the rest of humanity to ever let themselves be happy on the birth day of the country they come from...
*sickening typical torture description in a POW camp nixed out*
👿Jeff Berwick: Apparently Barack can let bygones be bygones as he makes no mention of that to the Queen!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: See above!
👿Jeff Berwick: That may be, however, because it was all made up lies.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yeah, well, not even Obama could just barge in and accuse the queen of torture without turning a bunch of people against him, and since those stories were lies, he would've also made a spectacular fool of himself.
👿Jeff Berwick: Anyway, the Prince of Peace
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Don't use that title on him! That title is reserved for someone else...!
👿Jeff Berwick: now oversees torture and the killing of thousands of innocents worldwide, so he may not want to bring that up too much although he certainly would never resort to squeezing testicles with metal rods! That's barbaric. Now he hangs people upside down and creates the sensation that they are drowning repeatedly. It's a much more civilized way of torture... probably another reason he won the Nobel Peace Prize.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: What the heck are you on about?
Look, whoever does these acts is responsible, not some government of a country this isn't even happening in...
If it's happening in Pakistan, then Pakistan is responsible. If it's Iran, then Iran is responsible. Etc. etc.
👿Jeff Berwick: PATRIAUTISM
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Troll...!
👿Jeff Berwick: Luckily I was no where near a TV for the entire day of July 4th so I missed most of the action.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh yeah, because they broadcast nothing but torture all day long on July 4, everybody just goes around hanging their friends and family upside down in water and does sex abuse as a way of celebrating the birth of their country! No fireworks, no party balloons, no dancing and singing, no laughter, no getting together for good food, just torture...
See how stupid this is?
I'm sure you would rather watch torture porn than little kids singing America The Beautiful or a marching band playing Oh Canada etc...
👿Jeff Berwick: I know what it entails as I've seen it countless times before.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: But you hate countries and you're bored with the happiness, you want something more *cough* exciting, so you wallow in torture fantasies...
👿Jeff Berwick: Slaves
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Not slaves, you nitwit, see above!
👿Jeff Berwick: lathering themselves into a frenzy at sporting events when some nameless troop walks out as they sing the national anthem to celebrate all the glorious and beautiful bombs bursting in air from a fight they had nothing to do with but take special pride in for some unknown reason.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oooooooohhhh, I get it now, I get it! You're triggered by a song that was written ages ago because OMG bombs and references to a battle were mentioned... Pathetic.
👿Jeff Berwick: But, a TDV subscriber ruined my day and forwarded me a "July 4th Chain Email" which was making the rounds asking all "proud Americans" to pass it along and give thanks for living in the freest country in the world. Cough. Gag.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: That would hack me off too, but for a far different reason. It being a meme, and because America is not the freest country, several are...
👿Jeff Berwick: And that god should bless the murderers on welfare...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: What? I'm pretty sure even the kookiest political meme didn't say that. But yes, dragging God's name into memes really is NOT COOL!
Since when does being on welfare make one a murderer anyway? The murderers on welfare? Killers go to prison, dude.
👿Jeff Berwick: the troops, for protecting those freedoms by taking $1 of every $15 produced in the US each year and paying for them to go off and murder people on the other side of the world. Better they murder people over there than have them murder people here the saying goes, I think.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: There is no such saying.
So, would you rather the troops from some foreign country were allowed in to murder you instead?
👿Jeff Berwick: The word patriotism is thick in the air on days like this. But a better word for it is patriautism.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No it is not, you stupid troll!
👿Jeff Berwick: Patriotism is defined by Reference.com as "a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion."
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Notice the word "slave" is absent in that definition?
👿Jeff Berwick: and autism is defined by Wikipedia as being "a disorder of neural development characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior."
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: And it has nothing to do with patriotism, you freaking idiot! Stop looking down your privileged nose at and discriminating against autistics. They didn't ask for that condition, they can't help it, and I've known some autistics who are a lot happier than you are. Patriots too, for that matter.
👿Jeff Berwick: Putting the two together,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: is woefully trollish, ignorant, and just plain stupid!
👿Jeff Berwick: patriautism can be defined as "a disorder of neural development characterized by a love and defense of your slaveowner or captor often including repetitive behavior such as repeatedly stating that their country is the freest country on Earth despite all evidence to the contrary".
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: You have no evidence for your pile of lackwittery.
👿Jeff Berwick: It's sort of a Stockholm Syndrome with flag waving.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, wow, that's cute, just toss Stockholm syndrome in there as well.
Tell you what, dude. Nobody kidnapped me. I was born in a country. I'm here because my family and friends are, and no one is keeping us against our will... The country didn't terrify any of us and make us love it later... No piece of land can do that.
👿Jeff Berwick: Although there is no known cure, there are instances of people who have recovered. Those who have recovered made mention that it was fairly soon after going to websites such as LewRockwell.com, Mises.org, Freedomain Radio, WhiskeyandGunpowder.com, Anarchast.com and DollarVigilante.com.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: As I thought, liberal/anarchist sites, which pretend not to promote the biggest oppressive ideologies on earth but actually they do...
Trollism can be defined as "a disorder of neural development characterized by a love and defense of causing disruption, bullying, deliberately offensive speech, spreading memes and other spam, having fetishes for torture, cancer, and autism, often including repetitive behavior such as repeatedly stating that their target is autistic or cancer despite all evidence to the contrary".
It's a lulz-addiction with anger management issues.
Although there is no known cure, there are very rare instances of people who have recovered. Those who have recovered made mention that it was fairly soon after they found themselves the target of other trolls, or actually cared about someone who was.
👿Jeff Berwick: WE'RE #1!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Not in my books.
👿Jeff Berwick: I shouldn't pick on Americans too much here.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, so now you're probably going to pick on everyone else.
👿Jeff Berwick: Almost every country on Earth has the same patriautism disorder. Canada, America's freezer, is even worse than the US now.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Gosh, you are so predictable, troll...
👿Jeff Berwick: The Canadian dollar, which had lingered at about $0.55 to the US dollar for decades recently surpassed the US dollar, turning Canadians from funny people who joked about themselves in the days of Bob & Doug Mackenzie to furiously proud Canadians who are adamant they live in the best country on Earth! They've even begun expanding their military empire worldwide to spread the virtues of ice hockey, insane taxes and "free" medical care through bombs from above. They're still working out the kinks in Libya.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: So you somehow got hockey and bombs and Libya all mixed up there... No financial or healthcare system is perfect...
👿Jeff Berwick: Even in Mexico many people proudly fire (illegal) guns in the air on Revolution Day to celebrate the courage of the people in 1910 which overthrew dictator José de la Cruz Porfirio Díaz Mori. I ask them, "When's the next revolution?" which is often met, like in the US, with blank stares.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Why don't you just admit it? You're bored with all the happiness. You want more bloodshed. Stop pretending to disapprove of it... People celebrating don't want it, they want to celebrate how good they actually have it, and that hopefully there will be no more revolutions... If you think that's wrong, well then, it must suck to be you.
👿Jeff Berwick: The thing that no one seems to get is this. If everyone who is born in a country just happens to think their country is the best... then everyone else, outside of their country, must be wrong if they are right. What a coincidence that everyone born in a country thinks their country is the best! If I ever meet an American who is celebrating Gabon Day on August 17 with some sparklers and a Gabon flag on his porch because he really feels that Gabon is the best country on Earth then I might actually stop and listen to why he thinks that.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: At this point, what else is there to say to you other than this:
GET A LIFE!
👿Jeff Berwick: If he's got an American flag and some stupid bumper sticker about the US being #1 then he's just got patriautism.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No, stupid, you are the problem, troll!
👿Jeff Berwick: PATRIAUTISM
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: TROLL!
👿Jeff Berwick: IS SO 2012
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, and goodness forbid anything 2012 not get trashed by the likes of you, troll!
👿Jeff Berwick: The thing that most people
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: "Most people" "most countries" "most" this "most" that, you don't speak for most people, so shut up!
👿Jeff Berwick: are completely missing
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh yes, most people "don't get it" "are missing" this or that, because only YOU, Jeff Berwick, DA SUPER BRAIN KNOWS ALL! *Rolling eyes*
👿Jeff Berwick: is that a massive paradigm shift is already in progress. Nation states are dinosaurs on their way out. Think about it.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, it's that "Imagine" thing again. Not gonna happen as long as there are enough sensible people around who want to keep their individuality and freedoms.
👿Jeff Berwick: Humanity started as tribes which were mostly a big family.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: All students, take your seats now, and shush shush, Jeff Berwick is going to teach you all about history!
Oh please. Tribes were never big happy families. Tribes eventually turned into nations, with smaller tribes within them. That's how it goes...
👿Jeff Berwick: Over time, as population grew they began to associate on the basis of religion or through feudal overseers... Kings and Queens... some of whom still exist today as embarrassing artifacts.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: You're already failing as a "teacher. Look, I get it. You hate hate hate hate hate HATE anything monarchy. You love love LOVE anarchy. Anarchy permits absolutely anything, including slavery, just as long as nobody actually calls themselves the head of a country...
Trolls love anarchy. They're always trying to create it on the net. They hate authority, unless they themselves are in it...
👿Jeff Berwick: Then, as people realized it was ridiculous to worship or work for royalty a new idea developed... democracy! It sounded great. We, the people, could rule ourselves.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: But now people like you are trying to bollox it all up so you can rule over the whole world...
👿Jeff Berwick: This has been proven completely wrong now.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No it hasn't, idiot... You just think it's wrong. Big difference.
👿Jeff Berwick: But, because of never before imagined wealth and prosperity due to free market innovations over the last century it is changing the political landscape.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No, the political landscape is changing because more and more whiny snowflakes have discovered they can cry-bully everyone into giving them what they want, no matter how ridiculous.
👿Jeff Berwick: In the olden days of the 20th century people were mostly still homogenous in a certain geographic region.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, brother, here we go again with the historical whinge. Everybody was this race here, that race there, that religion over there, blah blah and shut up already.
That has nothing to do with celebrating Canada/America/England Day..........
👿Jeff Berwick: This made nation states make sense somewhat. Mexicans were all descendants of the Aztecs and Mayans. The Thais were all Thais.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: They still are, genius!
👿Jeff Berwick: No more. Thanks to air travel, the internet, mobile phones, bank machines and countless other conveniences we can now live almost anywhere... only limited somewhat by the imaginary borders of the dying nation states.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Not imaginary. There will always be borders because countries and geography is always going to change. It's been that way since the beginning of humanity. If you can't learn to accept that, it sucks to be you.
More to the point, living somewhere else doesn't change a Thai into, say, an Italian for example! An Indian who moves to Mexico may become a citizen there, but will always be Indian.
👿Jeff Berwick: And so the Great Migration has begun.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: "The Great Migration" I can just tell you really salivate at the idea of invasion upon invasion until the world eventually is full of mindless drones that all do everything exactly alike and have completely forgotten what a country and their own heritage is...
👿Jeff Berwick: There are more Chinese in Vancouver than Anglophones. Many places in Mexico are becoming overrun by Americans and Russians fleeing their countries. Mexicans are fleeing the US in record numbers. And Europe is and will be mostly Muslim in the coming years as Africa and the Middle East migrate North.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Why don't you just admit you want an islamic invasion?
Consider your chant of "Open the borders! Let them in!" rejected from here.
I'm sick of people on either side telling me who to care about.
👿Jeff Berwick: It's an interesting time. Most of Africa would like to move to the US for its perceived security and opportunity. Most of the US would like to move to Asia for the opportunities or to Latin America for the lifestyle. And many in Asia are migrating all over the world to places like Chile, Paraguay, Canada and many more.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: That still has nothing to do with your idea that people should stop celebrating their country's birthday...
👿Jeff Berwick: It's geographical musical chairs. You won't even recognize the world twenty years from now.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ancient Sumerians wouldn't recognize our world either... Societies and countries have always changed, and people have always celebrated whatever countries they live in. Got a problem with that? It must suck to be you.
👿Jeff Berwick: And that just goes to point out the stupidity of Patriautism.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Wrong. It goes to show you're an anarchist troll, and an especially whiny, long-winded one.
Good gosh, how long does this go on!?
👿Jeff Berwick: Humanity is in motion and to think that the people who grew up around you are your countrymen is ignorant.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: My gosh, I never knew my own family and old friends were not my countrymen. Thank you EVER so much, Jeff Berwick, for showing me how ignorant I've been! Please forgive my unspeakably deplorable thought crime! I mean, how could I possibly think that knowing we were born in the same country? Like really, how stupid could I be?
Yeah, see how idiotic you are, Mr.Berwick?
👿Jeff Berwick: I grew up in Canada and I can assure you I had nothing in common with almost anyone there
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Why doesn't that surprise me? If you left, I doubt Canada missed you much.
👿Jeff Berwick: but I find that the people in the area where I live in Mexico are much more aligned with my idea of what is correct in life... and many are moving down to Acapulco to join me as I spread the word!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Well bully for you. Try to have a somewhat nice semblance of a kind of life.
👿Jeff Berwick: Many people think we are headed for another World War but I don't think so.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: I don't believe that notion either. But I wouldn't put it past you to try to start a war.
👿Jeff Berwick: You think Chinese, Black, Muslim and White people who live in the geographic region known as the US are going to go off and fight Chinese, Black, Muslim and White people from another geographic region? Thanks to modernity and technology, war is obsolete... governments are obsolete... and with it, patriautism is already so 2012.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: You already spewed that stupidity earlier, troll. See above. As for the rest of that ramble, it's not about nationalities with war. It's about other stuff like clashing beliefs, getting rid of bad regimes, sometimes even fights over territory...
Phew! Finally, it's over!
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