🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Nariko Rainbow and K Bieber Styles tantrum rants (They originally called it "Stupid Ignorant Anime Hater Smash")
*Rolling eyes* If anything, they are the real "haters" and their stupid little so-called "smashes" *cough, cough* were just whiny self-serving petulant tantrums. Just like any other thin-skinned fan brat who goes all to pieces when people don't like the crud they're into.
It appears Nariko Rainbow went trolling ExperienceProject for this one and the author's handle appears to be "deleted".
The whole Experienceproject story/group is called "I Hate Anime" so why would anyone who loved it go there? This makes no sense since the brotaku would foam at the mouth and go all kinds of ape if some person who didn't like MLP or anime went into one of their groups and expressed any kind of dislike or opposition to their crud.
Oh, right, "Do what I say, not what I do."
She must've gone over there, felt some kind of super self-righteous indignation or just self-pity, or both, and thought she'd just "smash" deleted's sensible rant as "hate" and "ignorance" on the forum. But she never got sympathy from any sensible person. Only K K Bieber Styles (Bieber and Styles Mary Sue fanbrat) Belieber and Directioner all in one, what a nightmare! Her *cough* tirade was even worse.
🤦🏽♀️BP: *cracks knuckles* Might as well put a dent in the otaku rant-back...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yes. In addition, I'm going to be linking to and maybe reposting more stuff I see on EP similar to what "Deleted" and "Sensible Person" have said in their rants.
When I said we are not fandom-friendly here, I meant it! <Dead serious!
Here are a few posts from the experience Project group from the sensible people who are as sick as I am of fan-brat antics and conniptions, and then the fanbrat tantrums bashing a couple of them. Tantrums which in turn, get mangled.
🐦GreenBudgerigar: Why Anime Fans Have To Go Around Calling People Idiots!
I mean, anime is a thing.Some people like it,some don't . Those who doesn't like it,make a group about it. So this group is all about not liking anime right? No,there will always be someone who goes around flaming. Always someone who goes" you don't like anime? Screw you!" Or "I like anime blablablabla.." I mean, this is a group made to hate or dislike anime what the f*** are you doing here?
Personally ,I hate anime. I hate the look of it, hate the sound of it, hate those storylines that try way too hard to be profound but come out very cheesy. I hate the ********* undertones that's everywhere even when the story actually has a MORAL. Anime is for those who don't have a sense of humor. So they turn to those humorless anime,and all start bashing american shows. Idiots.!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: They act as if it's their calling or mission in life, to protect something not worth protecting and is already being way overprotected. From what? Why, from anyone who might *gasp* not like it, of course! Or at least, not like the right ones. You know, the whole sub VS. dub stupidity, the old VS the new anime, in Nariko Rainbow's case, old sucked and new was all the rage, unless it was *cough* Hetalia.
And that stupid "hater" label. When I went to school, there was no such word. And that whole meme cliche saying "Haters gonna hate" kill it! It sounds ghetto, gangsta/rap, whatever. Just as annoying as redneck-speak. And, it's a freaking Taylor Swift song. Oy!
Having said that, there is one admitted "anime hater" AnonymousDiva, who has this to say.
👩🎤AnonymousDiva: Okay I am a big Anime hater. I think it is pointless and stupid and no where close to any line of reality that I have experienced. I would have started this group if it didn't exist but there is one Anime that I like that is American, The Boondocks. It's very funny and doesn't have some kind of weird time warp thing ever time anyone moves followed but unnecessarily hysterical laughter with big eyes. It's funny and realistic. Check it out anime haters.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Heh. So even the so-called "haters" don't necessarily hate all anime. Which means one thing. Anime may be annoying, but the real problem is otaku!
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Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Stupid Ignorant Anime Hater Smash
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Which sucked from here to Jupiter. So now a whining arrogant otaku tantrum gets mangled.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Oh dear...I remember this one...
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: This person has no idea what she's talking about.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: A lot more than you'll ever know.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Well, I'm sure to someone obsessed with anime, it would look like that. People have different tastes. You can't lambaste someone as an idiot just because they don't like what you like.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: You just don't want to see and admit the truth, you've aligned yourself with a particularly stupid internet subculture.
👤deleted: Why is it that anime fans are so elitist?
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Some of them are, but many of them are not.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No, many of them are, including you! Some are not. Those that are would be the otaku. Those which are not would be the average person who doesn't define themselves by whatever crud they watch let alone throw ten million hissy fit tantrums when someone else doesn't like it. Get a grip.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heh! Oh, yeah, sure. *rolls eyes* I have to agree with deleted on this one. I've encountered way too many people who practically rip your face off for daring to compare an anime with a cartoon from the States- heck, anywhere NOT Japan. There is a SERIOUS element of elitism.
👧k.bieber.styles: You have no right to hate on fandoms. Directioners & Beliebers can do a lot and Anime fans can literally kill you!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Scowl* She has every right to dislike any fandom, and I'm sure anime fanbrats would literally try to kill her if given half a chance. And YOU are cool with that! Disgusting! *Acid glare* Now that is hating… Just what in the world ever made you think this attitude would be tolerated on a Meme Mangling site? You are an embarrassment to Meme Manglers! Get out!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Oh please- no right to hate on fandoms? I hate fandoms I should technically be a part of! I love Star Trek- does that mean I love the fan community? Heck no! I love Transformers. Does that mean I love morons who insist on slashing every single character? NO. Trust me- there is ample reason to hate any fandom.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Exactly! I've had experience with fandoms of things I like and their behaviour was dreadful! There's altogether too much "Ooooh, he's sooooo hot!" "She's so cute/pretty/beautiful!" "I could get with him." "Oooh, they'd be so cute together!" to say nothing of the morass of fanfiction/rpg saturated with pairings pairings pairings, and Mary Sue/Gary Stu. That's just the non-anime-related fan bases. The anime fan base consisting of the otaku have all of that plus exactly what you two drips are doing here, getting mad because someone doesn't like anime.
👤deleted: Why do they think that anime is so freaking intellectually advanced and everyone that doesn't like it is an idiot?
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Maybe you have a weeaboo idiot as a boyfriend.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: There are no such things as weeaboos, you've got to stop chugging the 4chan koolaid! There are only otaku when it comes to crazed anime fanatics, and you do not take me in with some lame 4chan-created label you try using as an excuse for deluding yourself into thinking you're less of an idiot from the next otaku.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Another point for deleted! The otaku will rip your tongue out for daring to speak against the all-mighty anime. Trust me. I've seen plenty of 'em. *shudder*
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: There is a plethora of anime out there that are not advanced at all, such as Lucky Star.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Well - nooooooooo - kidding! Duh, nothing like pointing out the glaring obvious! Besides, who do you think you're impressing by rattling off a few anime series names?
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heheh! No kidding. Just as with any genre, there will be more sophisticated and less sophisticated. Deal with it.
👧k.bieber.styles: Maybe because they are proud that they are fans of such cute little animes. <3
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Facepalm* when there are other things that are actually worth being proud about… Gah you're embarrassing and royally ticking me off all at the same time! Pride can and does get too carried away with these anime fanbrats and doesn't excuse their attitudes and fanaticism. if you want to be proud of something, don't expect anybody else to swoon before you in awe and for goodness sake don't express your pride in such obnoxious ways. So you like anime. Big deal. So she doesn't, big deal. Get over it and over yourself. I really doubt your favourite anime characters feel insulted by her.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Eh- cute? Sheesh, am I the only one who doesn't find every single anime character absolutely adorable? Oh wait! I'm just a casual fan, so I don't count. Oh, how silly of me! Forgive me, oh great and knowledgeable otaku! *sarcasm: warp 50*
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: LOL!
👤deleted: Well I dont like it.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Well good for you then.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: A pouty otaku, how adorable. *Snort*
🤦🏽♀️BP: Oy...if you like it, fine. If you don't, fine. I'm not going to bite your head off for disliking an anime. *snicker* Heck, I actually find it pretty dang amusing when people think they're insulting me by insulting an anime I like. As if I'm supposed to just explode with indignation and eat them alive for*gasp* having an opinion.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Lol no kidding!
👧k.bieber.styles: Wait till your butt is kicked.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Wrong! It is your lousy bratty butt getting kicked off this site! Too many sites allow fan brats to run amok and bully the living tar out of people who don't like their stupid fandom crap. It is not going to be this way here!
👤deleted: I think its ugly, and loud, and annoying, and abrasive.
🤦🏽♀️BP: And you know what? A lot of it is. I really can't blame you for that.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: *facepalm* Yet again, another moron who only probably watched one or two anime.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh please! since when does not watching anime make somebody a moron? You don't have to watch a whole bunch of it to form your own valid opinion. She's got every right to feel this way. Otaku really do act as if someone has just run over their dog when they find out there's someone out there who doesn't like their favourite series or the genre in general. You are no exception.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Also, according to the dictionary,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Yawn* When all else fails, just club your opponent to death with dictionary definitions and hope for all you're worth that your opponent will be reduced to a quivering humbled little soul, begging down on their knees to be forgiven for disliking anime for any reason! *Rolling eyes*
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heh! No kidding. Not entirely sure why the dictionary was even needed here...pretty sure deleted knew what he/she was talking about.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Deleted knew. The fangirl didn't.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: 'abrasive' means 'harsh or rough to the ears'. Sure it is...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: And your point? Oh, right. You have to use a dictionary to try making yourself look more cool and intellectual when all you've done is point out the obvious and actually reaffirm what Deleted just said. Good going. Self-pwning.
👧k.bieber.styles: Wow you're brave! You are not afraid of the anime fans who will brutally kill you.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Withering glare* YOU! Shut up! It's exactly this attitude that causes very justifiable disdain for these out-of-control nutters whacked out fandoms! You are such a fanbrat that you wish she would die brutally. NOT COOL!
🤦🏽♀️BP: *sigh* Oh, come on...I suppose speaking up when faced against a legion of psychos would take some courage, but you really need to cool it.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No different and no less stupid than those chain letters that say you will or should die for not passing them along. No different from the stupid hater-cults out there. and by hater-cult I mean those people who just decide to hate something or someone for the heck of it to be their own idea of cool. Yes, K Bieber Styles Mary Sue fan brat, you are exactly like the Bieber-hatists! How does that grab you? Don't like it? Then stop being such a fan brat and grow the heck up! Until you do, you will not be welcome here!
👤deleted: Those stupid characters drive me crazy.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Yes, some of them are insane, but most of them are not stupid at all,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: I guess that all depends on your idea of stupid. In the olden days, nobody was considered stupid before they learned the earth was round and the sun didn't move around it…
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heheh! Indeed. All a matter of opinion.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yes, many anime characters are stupid, randomly stupid. Flaky, random explosions of violence etc. It's no more or less stupid than a lot of what's being churned out even in other genres, but by gosh its fan cultists are obnoxious, annoying twits.
Deleted didn't even say that anime characters were crazy, she said anime and its fans drive her crazy. Completely different concepts. But this fangirl was so enraged at the perceived horribly grievous insult to the genre and fandom that she didn't catch it.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: ie: Eri from Love Live.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Yawn* Like that's supposed to mean anything special. so you can say the name of some character from your favourite anime. Who cares?
While on the subject of names: Piccolo. That's a dang instrument! Vegeta (sp) What the freakin - seriously? And what idiots thought it would be cool to name characters numbers? Lady *cough hurlage* Une! Duo, Trowa, etc. ? *Rolling eyes*
🤦🏽♀️BP: Hahahah! *grin* Oh, heck yes. DBZ is notorious for stupid names. And here's the kicker- they chose those names on purpose, supposedly for comedic affect. Naming a villain/anti-hero after a tiny, flute-like instrument? Sounds like a great idea! Naming a bunch of characters after vegetables? Why not! We have Raditz the Radish, Kakarrot the Carrot, and Vegeta the Vegetable! Sheesh, we might as well make a salad...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Hehe! Knowing that actually helps me to appreciate it. They did it deliberately to be silly. They weren't just way out to lunch in the head when making the series. That makes the names in DBZ at least, a bit more tolerable. Can't say the same for other series, though. And as for the otaku, who are for or against any anime series, they are just endlessly annoying and ridiculous right across the board. They wouldn't be if they'd just grow up and drop the fanatics and bratty behaviour.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: She's smart, and is pretty calm too. Not to mention she went through puberty.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: That's like so incredibly epic! Like OMG, no character has ever aspired to this before! Like totally ohmigosh! AMAZING!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Seriously, stop the presses. This is BIG news. Wow. Totes wow.
👧k.bieber.styles: They may be weird but not stupid. Besides, weirdness is a side effect of being awesome! And awesome is not equal to stupid. So there!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Awesome is so subjective. I do not think anime is awesome. Any of it! There is some that I like, way too mainstream for you though I'm sure, but "awesome" is taking it too far. I think a good deal of it is stupid. I am out of patience with fangirls like you.
🤦🏽♀️BP: H'm! No kidding. Awesome is entirely subjective. There's a lot of stuff I find awesome that I'm sure people find weird, but that's because we all have this thing called *gasp* our own opinions! Shock horror!
👤deleted: Some times, when my boyfriend is watching anime, i have to actually put my hands over my ears to block out their annoying laughs.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Not all anime characters have annoying laughs. Like Yuki from Haruhi Suzumiya, who has (and is supposed to) have the personality of a rock. And what's with you targeting just the sound area? I would've expected you to pull out the old 'huge eyes' card right now.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Maybe it makes her ears bleed. Even if you can mention one quiet character from one series, that hardly makes the whole series quiet nor does it lessen the din coming from other series assaulting deleted's eardrums. I have a friend who says her mom can't stand the eerie music from mystery shows. You going to criticize her about that too?
Yes, the big shiny anime eyes would be annoying because they're so assembly line like so many other anime characters, the girls with the weird flashy coloured hair, the tiny little waif-like bodies and - other features that are exaggerated.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Yep- another point for deleted. Exaggerated anything can be annoying as heck- particularly the trend with making the female characters waif thin, yet so big-chested that they ought to snap in half. Sheesh. *shakes head* I can only hope deleted's boyfriend doesn't watch that sort...but it's an unfortunately common trend. Thankfully, though, I have encountered people who are just as disgusted with it as I am.
👧k.bieber.styles: Liar! No one would want a girlfriend like you, and you say you have a boyfriend. Ahahahaha Biggest joke of the year!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yeah, so funny I forgot to laugh. Why would she lie about having a boyfriend?
🤦🏽♀️BP: *sigh* Oh, come on. Really? That's the best you got?
👤deleted: Why ???? I dont get it.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Please learn to have decent grammar.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: If that's the best you can do, you might as well admit you lost the battle of wits.
🤦🏽♀️BP: *ahem* If you're going to pull the grammar card, the least you could do is pull it correctly...this is more a matter of punctuation than grammar. Lose the zillion question marks, add an apostrophe, done.
👧k.bieber.styles: Please learn to not be so hyper.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Rolling eyes* Learn to take your own advice…
👤deleted: Apparently it has a sweeping story arc that comes to a complete close, unlike less advanced american television.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Hahahaha! *grin* Bingo! Sheesh, SO many anime have these insanely convoluted plots that are supposed to be absolutely amazing and reality-shattering- when they're really just confusing and lazy. Another point for deleted!
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: AGAIN. Not all do. Like K-On!.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ooooooooh! Another great big "Lookie what I know about anime, I can name another one and tell you all about it, whether you give a crap or not! Surely that will shut you up and put you firmly back in your proper place and you will eventually stop sinning against the great genre of anime! Aren't I the witty wonder!?"
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Did it ever have a plot?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: If you can call some aimless, ongoing cartoonized soap opera a plot. In anime, the plot is often either terribly convoluted or else nonexistent.
🤦🏽♀️BP: No kidding! Heck, there are times when a non-existent plot can work. Comedy doesn't really need a giant, running plot- but I can definitely see the irritation.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Great point. The no plot thing made me think of something else though, the absolutely nauseating pwp
"PWP - Porn Without Plot or Plot, What Plot? This is a piece of fan fiction that contains no other action than an overt sexual act between the characters. A piece that is about nothing besides Liz and John having sex is considered a PWP."
Though I'm pretty sure it doesn't just apply to fan fiction.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Oooh no didn't!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: But it contains yuri, so it sucks.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Plus, there are many better American shows out there that have decent plots,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Another obvious statement. wow.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Zing! You want a sticker for that?
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: such as The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones, even though I haven't seen both of 'em.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: What? Seriously? if that's the best you can do, that so does not say much for your favourite genre. It doesn't even say much for your taste either.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Pfff! You picked THOSE? You picked a gore-fest and porn. Gory porn. Wow, what fantastic choice in TV!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Eww! *Grimace* Let's see what goes on in "Game Of Thrones"
Excerpt from Wikipedia:
"The amount of sex and nudity shown on Game of Thrones, especially in scenes that are incidental to the plot, has been the focus of much of the criticism aimed at the series. Charlie Anders wrote in io9 that while the first season was replete with light-hearted "sexposition", the second season appeared to focus on distasteful, exploitative and dehumanizing sex with little informational content. According to the Washington Post's Anna Holmes, the nude scenes appeared to be aimed mainly at titillating heterosexual men, right down to the Brazilian waxes sported by the women in the series's faux-medieval setting, which made these scenes alienating to other viewers.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ewww! *Grimace* They actually show this on TV?
Continuing with the article quote.
"And in the Huffington Post, Maureen Ryan likewise noted that Game of Thrones mostly presented women naked, rather than men, and added that the excess of "random boobage" undercut any aspirations the series might have to address the oppression of women in a feudal society. Saturday Night Live parodied this aspect of the adaptation in a sketch that portrayed the series as having a thirteen-year-old boy as a consultant whose main concern was showing as many breasts per scene as possible.
The series was also criticized for its torture scenes. Madeleine Davies wrote in Jezebel that "it's not uncommon that Game of Thrones gets accused of being torture porn — senseless, objectifying violence combined with senseless, objectifying sexual imagery", but she noted that, except for the titillation and torture of Theon Greyjoy in season 3, the series's use of violence did tend to serve a narrative purpose. Alyssa Rosenberg, writing in ThinkProgress, found a purpose even in Theon's "grotesque and emotionally agonizing" mutilation, in that it efficiently illustrated torture's nature: "not an intelligence-gathering technique, not a tool that must only be used occasionally with great regret, but the process of turning someone into something else, and often something less."
You have to go quite a way down the page, but it is there.
The only things I like about GOT is the theme music and some of the character names I've heard mentioned here and there. Thanks Youtube and Jeopardy.
Let's see what goes on in Walking Dead" the series.
Another post-apocalyptic horror thing with no point.
Nope, not into that one either.
👧k.bieber.styles: Jump off a cliff.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: In other words, you have no intelligent point to make in rebuttal.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Wow, another zinger! We've got a hot crew tonight!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Snicker*
👤deleted: It has deeper underlying issues, and is easy to identify with.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: For the third time, you've probably only seen a 'handful' of shows.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Annoyed sigh, rolling eyes* For the third or so time, you don't have to smell a ton of horse crap to decide it stinks! Nobody is impressed with that long long long long long list of animes you've watched or have collected or can name. What the heck does your unimpressive boasting about all the tons of anime you watch have to do with her statement above? Gah you didn't even let her get to whatever point she was about to make.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Exactly! Look, some people just don't like anime. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't like romantic comedies. No amount of watching romantic comedies is going to make me change my mind. It's the same principle.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Exactly. In addition, people who are so fanatical that they're bent on trying to get me to change my mind about a genre, particularly one that has such a huge fandom which has become a cult of collectivist thought and action, no. the harder you push, the more you manage just the opposite of your intent. Even if I happen to like the odd J/K-pop tune or whatever music comes from some anime, doesn't mean I'm getting into any of those genres, so don't get excited. It's only one song or show here and there, and I'm not about to join your ridiculous fandom.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Probably which have aired on Adult Swim.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Scowl* Boy, you sure know your way around the bad parts of the internet or cable or satellite dish etc. don't you? I mean if Adult Swim is too mainstream or too tame for you...
👧k.bieber.styles: I bet you saw only 1 show.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: What does it matter how many freaking stupid shows, or the exact number of shows she's seen? Maybe she can't get into the genre. Maybe she's sick of fan stupidity. Maybe she has good reason to be… You don't have to touch 10 hot stoves to find out you really don't like the feeling of getting burned. Duh! You nutter otaku are the only ones so terribly bent on trying to tell everybody how important you want us thinking you are because you don't have a life beyond anime, MLP "Friendship Is Magic" (AKA Fandom Is Madness AKA Freaking Idiotic Mush) Justin Bieber and whatever else you think makes you look cool.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Gah! Look, sometimes that's all it takes. Let's say you only saw one horror movie, and you hated it so much you never wanted to watch another horror movie again. Same idea. Sheesh...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Exactly!
And to back this up, here's someone who has gone through the punishment of watching a whole anime series to please their crazy otaku friends, and guess what? They came out of the experience being even less able to stand it than before!
explainit2me: I Just Can't Get Into It.....
I have nothing against anyone who enjoys anime. I just want to throw that out there before I am viciously attacked by an anime lover.
I just find the animation annoying, and I think the story lines are pretty ridiculous. I also can't stand how overly dramatic it is. I have a friend that watches it and is always trying to get me into it. I tried. I watched the whole death note series with him to show that I'm a good sport and that I will at least give it a shot before I completely decide to hate it. While the story-line was ok the animation just got on my nerves. I'm not exactly sure what it is about it that just irks me completely but I can't watch it.
Now I'm to the point to where I just want him to shut the flare up about it and quit trying to force me to get into it. It's not happening. 🧝♀️Ocean Elf: And here is an article about what this kind of otaku peer pressure does to people who try watching anime to please them.
👤deleted: WHAT? a terrifying clown with a crab arm screaming about the tool? no.
🤦🏽♀️BP: What the-? I don't even know what that's referencing, and I'm going to have to agree. No thanks.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: I agree, no, just, no. I'll take that as an example the otaku say are things with deeper meanings and can be identified with. Or at least, I think that was what you were trying to say before we all got in there. Probably just something off the top of his/her head that fairly simulates some random stupidity seen in anime.
👧k.bieber.styles: You sound like the killer clown chain letter.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Scowl* No she doesn't, you stupid brat! Your wishing she would be killed brutally doesn't sound even more like a death chain letter I suppose? Idiot! Hypocrite! No, she doesn't sound like that death clown chain letter just for describing what was probably a very good approximation of some crazy scene in some anime. You are the chain letter here. And you didn't even rebut what she was saying at all. You just saw the word "clown" and thought "Ooooh, I'll just compare her to that chain letter even though she never threatened to kill anybody, she hates the sacred fandom and that's worse anyways! So hah, look at meez! Wowzers I'm like so smart!"
What she said had nothing at all to do with the Killer Clown chain, it didn't even go near it! Gah! You can't even mangle your way out of a soap bubble! Your tirades suck asteroids!
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Huh? lol.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Like it or not, that's pretty much what this crud looks like to someone not afflicted with otakuism. Random crazy stupid chaos.
👤deleted: i dont identify with that. 12 year old children inside giant killing machines? nope that never happened to me.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Me neither. We should start a club.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: And it shouldn't happen anywhere, not even in fiction. Kids that kill send the creepy factor through the roof, unless we're talking about dealive kids.
👧k.bieber.styles: Oh please, shut up!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Well, I don't identify with it either. I guess that means I, too, should shut up… No, how about you shut up instead? Yeah, that's a better idea.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: There are at least a dozen anime out there that are more realistic.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Hey quiet in the building again, she's going to show us all how totally awesome she can be by dropping more names of anime and try to convince us all they are realistic and totally awesome. *Sneer*
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heheh! Realistic, huh? This is gonna be good.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Take, for example...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: See? There she goes again. *Yawn* So predictable.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Lucky Star (again).
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ah yes, the very one you said wasn't advanced. So, more realistic means less advanced. Wow. got it. Pwned yourself! Way to go! *Claps*
🤦🏽♀️BP: Lucky Star this, Lucky Star that- sheesh. Give it a rest...
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: It's about
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: You may not have noticed, and just don't want to hear this, but some of us couldn't care less what it's about. Those who are curious can look it up on their own. You're not impressing anyone by showing off what a walking anime encyclopedia you can be.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: the daily lives of highschool girls, with just slightly exaggerated personalities,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Which is not over-done at all… *Sarcasm*
🤦🏽♀️BP: Wow. How exciting. How jaw-droppingly incredible. Yay.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: because face it: It would otherwise be very boring.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: You just admitted non-exaggeration is boring to you. what a winner.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Not gonna lie, I would find that show rather boring. Because, why on earth would I want to watch some high school drama? Sheesh. Have you ever considered that some people don't watch you precious shows because the overall story just isn't that appealing? Like, totally ohmigosh! Impossible!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Add in the exaggeration factor and it goes from merely boring to all out cliche irritating.
👤deleted: What a freaking ridiculous genre.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heheh! Yup. Not gonna lie. It is pretty darn ridiculous.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Except for the odd one here and there, from everything I've read about it, anime is generally too random and chaotic, convoluted, or all of the above for me. Older stuff, newer stuff, doesn't matter; it just bores the heck out of me.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Yeah, just sci-fi, fantasy, and whole lot of nothing else! @.@
👧k.bieber.styles: Science & Fantasy, huh? Is that ridiculous.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Whoa, did anyone else just see the spittle hit the fan?
There is a heck of a lot of ridiculous in just about any genre. Are you going to claim there is no genre you personally find ridiculous?
🤦🏽♀️BP: Sheesh, cool it! I'm pretty sure deleted isn't upset about the sci-fi and fantasy elements. More with the presentation. I can understand that. And if you weren't blinded by obsession, perhaps you could too...
👤deleted: some of it i can get behind like swept away, or ponyo.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Fact: It's Spirited Away.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: So she got the title mucked up. That's far less a problem than your stinking attitude.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Yeesh, Spirited Away creeped the heck out of me. *shudder* But I am going to slice and dice you because you enjoyed it? Nope! Because I too am sensible.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ewwww, bleck! "Spirited Away" is not for me either. Looks like it was enspired by a bad drug trip combined with some fairy-tale aspects thrown in for good measure.
ponyo *Shudder* Oh, the title!
Turns out it's basically a drawn-out, convoluted anime version of The Little Mermaid.
Nope, not for me either.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Everyone knows those movies,
🤦🏽♀️BP: Well, no.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Such a wrong sweeping generalization. I didn't know those movies, so excuse me for living!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Not everyone. I know quite a few people who don't know them. You can't really generalize like that...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Besides, that's a really stupid non-point you're trying to make. You think those animes don't count because in your dim view "everybody knows them"? *Rolling eyes* You're trying too hard to be some special little snowflake and you're just a typical elitist otaku flake. Way to go.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yeah, anyway, go soothe your wounded soul with Girls Generation or something, play with your little Madoka Magica plushies. Take a little time out. You might calm down a bit and the world will be grateful.
👧k.bieber.styles: GET OUT OF MY KITCHEN!!!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Withering glare* Ahem! This ain't your kitchen!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Uh, did I miss something? When did we get in your kitchen?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: We didn't. She was so mad she forgot she wasn't in her own kitchen. The nerve.
👤deleted: yet those arent screaming all the time and have ridiculous names and crazy special powers.
👧k.bieber.styles: STOP THAT!!!!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Une, Zechs, Treize. Vegeta, Piccolo. Yes, those are ridiculous names.
🤦🏽♀️BP: *grin* Heheh- yup. That is quite the common theme. I have a feeling you've seen some DBZ. Pretty much every single episode is screaming, crazy powers, and stupid names. Heck, I don't even really know why I like it as much as I do. *shrug* Go figure.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Lol It's like that. I have the odd thing that I like but have no idea why. It just happens to be that one among a lot of others I don't like. *Grin* Sometimes a little nonsense is fine for a bit of light entertainment. Too much of it gets boring though, and over zealous fans just ruin the whole thing.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Like Gundam? And Dragonball?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: More name-dropping. Yeah, those are dumb names. You just pointed out the obvious and reaffirmed what she was just saying, again. Way to go.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Hah! I knew it! *grin* The shows where people are named after numbers and vegetables...
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Also, the Japanese could say the same thing about our names.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Holy crap, spoken like the typical otaku in a fit of sheer arrogance! Speaking for the Japanese now, eh? Gah, you're unbelievable!
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: (Example: "Wow," said Ryoko Miyazawa. "'Sparta' is such a weird name! The heck?")
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: So you can say a few Japanese words, bully for you. And yes, Sparta would be a weird name for a child, but I have heard weirder. Sparta used to be a place in ancient Greece, and if the Japanese studied Greek history, they would very likely learn about it, only have their own way of saying it; just like the english calling Russia 'Russia' while the French call it 'Russe'. Not the same as your desperately lame attempt at a Japanese comparison at all, which just doesn't work.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heheh! Exactly! That's sort of the nature of languages...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: This anime sounds pretty run-of-the-mill anyway, weird-color haired girls with quirks ranging from obnoxiously cutesy to violent coolheadedness, yes, one girl was described that way, doing cutesy random stuff. Zzzz. Though I think I remember saying something about girls killing each other in this series? Lovely. It might’ve been a different series too, I don’t know or care. "Hunger Games" "Lord Of The Flies" anyone? No thanks! Bleck!
This girl is such an otaku that she couldn't even get anime and what is Japanese off her mind to mangle memes. Examples:
Her very first post on the mangle of the "Daddy It Hurts Misty Sarah Chris child abuse hoax was:
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Whenever I see the name "Misty" it makes me think of Pokemon. :p
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Whaaaaaaat!? I just mangled a malicious hoax that stole a poem and applied it to pictures of real kids who have nothing to do with it, and this girl totally derailed the thread before it could even get started, with that? Since then, I got curious about Pokemon due to something else unrelated to this mangle, and actually like it. But I don't even want to discuss that with any otaku.
That put me in the awkward position of trying to keep the thread active with something. So, trying to get the subject away from the otaku addiction, trying not to encourage it, I said I didn't know there was a Misty in that series, but had a couple of pets named Misty in the past. Though that wasn't what I was really wanting this thread turning into, either.
The pets thing did take off because it was a tiny bit of common ground, but still, she must have mistaken my mere "statement of not knowing about the anime Misty, for interest, which it wasn't at the time. It was a brush-off.
She replied with:
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Yeah. Indeed. I'm not a big fan of Pokemon, but I know this for a fact. Here she is: http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Misty_%28anime%29
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Facepalm* Then why the heck bring it up in the first place?
And pokemon is the one I actually like. Not just the anime though, it's a complex series but is geared toward kids so is in good taste has characters that are truly interesting and cute. I'm including some pokemon in fiction-writing.
Another mangle attempt fail involving a far less serious chain.
Chain: I can remember her face clearly. It’s really depressing.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Seeing some woman in front of you makes you depressed? Uh, why?
And that's it, you have nothing more to say. Just - why?
Maybe you need to take some time off.
(: 🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, that last sentence reminds me of this one part in this series I watch called Joshiraku.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Rolling eyes* I keep ignoring you when you do this and you never seem to take the hint. Have you not noticed how I never bring up the subject of anime or your Japanese live action TV, not even to ask questions? Ever notice how anything I say back in response is lukewarm at best? Ever wondered why?
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: A girl asked her dentist about his pay, and then he made a sad face. The girl remembers it clearly and she gets sad every time she tells the story to someone.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: So… This show is like a weird chain letter without a point, yeah, sounds like something I’m just gonna rush out and watch. Not. Anyway, this isn’t mangling the meme.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Mind you, it's a comedy anime. A very Japanese one at that.)
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: And why on earth did you think I would care? You’re the one always going on about “Japanese Japanese Japanese” as if anyone might think you’re super impressive because you watch Japanese shows. *Rolling eyes*
And when trying to mangle the One-eyed Mother chain, she kept referencing some anime character as the kid who rejected his mom for having only one eye. Look at what she said about the character for yelling at his mom who only wanted to visit him and his family after years of being apart - he had grown up and moved away, hoping to never see her again.
Chains: "GET OUT OF HERE! NOW!!!"
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: ***Shinto now gained BACKBONE***
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Scowl* No he didn't. He's still the same evil, gutless, selfish, slimy, waste of skin arsehole he always was! He's a two-year-old in a man's form. It doesn't take guts to rant at a heart-broken mother who just wants to get back in touch with her family. Sheesh!
Chain2: I'm sorry that I came to your house and scared your children.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: I wouldn't have been sorry. Yet again, this is sadistic me.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Grimace* I didn't see where sadism came into it for not being sorry about coming to visit. Some people aren't sorry because they're oblivious or just don't care. Anyway, the point is being sadistic is nothing to be proud of.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: So she wasn't an alien. But I like my theory much better. (I'm sure that he lost half of his heart in that accident too.)
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: This mother was already picked on so horribly by her own poisonous hateful bigoted kid, she didn't need an alien theory adding to that. And as for the kid losing half his heart - what heart? He can't lose something he never had to begin with and even someone with half a heart wouldn't have been this abominable.
And yes, she referred to this heartless kid as "Shinto" the whole time.
Then there was this - another wearing of the otakuism plus fangirlism for celebrities generally on the sleeve again, causing me to twitch.
Chain: 2. Do you like anyone, and story behind it?
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: sure, I liked a lot of kids. 50% of them being anime characters, or celebrities.
There has been a lot of posts going around with pictures of "hot" anime guys, saying to "like" for Prussia, "comment" for England, "share" for Italy and- wait for it- "ignore" for Bieber. This seems to be one, too. Just without the picture. The next one is just your generic post.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ugh! She did this all the time, it was REALLY obnoxious and annoying, and painful to read. I mean, the places she hung out in, clearly she was seriously into the whole over-the-top fangirl thing.
🤦🏽♀️BP: *sigh* You know, it did seem like she had kind of lost sight of the goal. That was my first thought when she posted that Brony rant thing. "Wait a sec- what does this have to do with chain letters? What is this-?" And even when her posts did have something to do with chain letters, there always seemed to be the anime element. C'mon- I love a good anime as much as the next sensible fan, but this is just ridiculous. There's a time and a place. This is neither.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yes - it's one thing to be reminded of and bring up the odd book or show, whatever genre, but like every otaku, she just went way overboard.
She had a hissy on her profile when her obsession was politely noted by another member, I might add. Something to the effect of "Is it so bad for me to like anime?"
It is when you get this touchy and you misuse the Idiot Showcase to call people idiots for not liking your fandom choices, and then doing your best to out-otaku various fanatics when you hardly seem any better yourself.
👤deleted: everyone has their own interests. and thats fine. but dont force your crazy love of anime off on me. i just hate it. thanks.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Applauds* Hurrah! Somebody had to say it, here, here!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Indeed! *grin* Heck, I found this pretty darn amusing. If I can't laugh at the stupid elements of something I like...well, I might as well be an otaku. *shudder* Ugh- sheesh, let's hope that NEVER happens. If it does, I give you all permission to blow my brains out with a digital shotgun.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Laughing*
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Again, these people are stupid. Hey, the 'shift' button is just a 'tap' away!~
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: oh, the obviousness…
👧k.bieber.styles: Don't say that. I have a friend Nariko Rainbow who will punch the crap outta you. You'll be in hospital in 23 seconds!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Scowls* No she won't! Idiot! You are so out of here! Grow the heck up!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Ugh...*shakes head* Being a super aggressive fan isn't something to boast about...
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No crap! I hope these pathetic dweebs eventually grow out of it, and if they remember this disgraceful display of stunning puerile stupidity, they'll remember it with red faces and feelings of "Oh my gosh - I can't believe I was such a freaking tool! Apologies to the human race for my youthful moronics!"
No, Not the Zabi Maru, Anything But That
My friends are all Bleach freaks.
Not only that, they love every anime on the face of the planet- at least, every one that's made it onto the internet and thus poisoned North American culture.
I realize how judgemental all of this sounds, not only of my friends but of Japan. Honestly, I hold nothing against the Japanese themselves. Maybe in the beginning, Anime had dignity. Maybe some of it still does. I mean, our culture has produced stupid, pointless, time-wasting shows beyond number, and we've subscribed to them, yes. Here's the thing, okay? Every second we're at school but not actually "at attention" (and sometimes when we really should be) the talk is Bleach this, Vampire Night that, Dragonball Z (yes, really) so-and-so, Death Note such-and-such. They are all so deeply immersed in the latest events of their Anime worlds that I feel expressly shut out. It's gotten rather tricky for me to join a conversation. They aren't really interested in much that I have to say.
I just can't bear how seriously they take it. Admittedly, I haven't seen a great deal of any of the shows; about fifteen of Bleach at a sleepover and only one or two episodes, if that, of others. To me, nevertheless, they are divisable into two categories. The Just Plain Stupid Anime and the Grim Evil Darkness Anime. If anyone comes up with better titles for the categories, please comment and let me know. An example of the first category would be Dragonball Z. The plot seems fairly complicated, with numerous planets and three or four series within the Dragonball theme. Technical details notwithstanding. Watch this show for five minutes and I dare you not to spit out the corpses of recently deceased brain cells. I have scoffed at this show since I first heard of it and glimpsed a few seconds of it on television. "How can people actually watch that?" I'd think. Well, now I have proof of how basically intelligent humans - teenagers- can get sucked in. For cripes' sake, we're seventeen, aren't we supposed to be just a little more discerning in what we choose to do in our valuable spare time?
The side of anime that unnerves me, though, is the Grim Evil Darkness type. Enter Death Note. They thought I might enjoy this one, a while back. So, trying to be openminded, I watched a bit. In the very first episode, it shows a creepy world of "gods", one of whom accidentaly-on-purpose drops the Death Note notebook onto Earth. A young man picks it up and soon discovers (through encounters with the god, and experimentation) that it gives him the instant power to kill anyone, if he writes their name in the book. So he starts out by popping off some dangers to society, you know, just the nasty dudes holding little kids for ransom. But then he becomes possessed by this sort of ethnic cleansing mania and goes on a power trip... and, well, kills more people. A lot more. Those he doesn't like. "He's a rival. She's got better university marks than me. They stole my lunch money in first grade." You get the idea. He's in a pretty scary mindset by the end- and that's just episode one. Quick plot progression, I'll say that for it. But it seems to me, like too many elements of Western society (i.e., a horrifying number of musical genres), this sort of anime is glorifying all the darkness humanity is capable of. Making it fascinating, making it okay. It's not a tool for recognizing our potential and learning to stay with the "good guys". It's saying, "Hey, look boys and girls, he's a murderer. Isn't that exciting?" I don't know if there's any kind of moral anything, later on. Not from what my friends have told me.
And, if they read this, they'd probably speak to me even less than they do now. But I'm not objecting on Christian or anti-enjoyment grounds. I just think that there MUST be more worthwhile shows or hobbies than the garbage Anime seems to be comprised of.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yuck! It's the same mindset as the stupid fangirls who crush on the likes of Freddy Krueger, Slender Man, Jeff The Killer, Jason Voorhees etc. Anybody who thinks sadism is any kind of cool is seriously mucked up in the head.
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Childish, Pedophilic, And Just Plain Bizzare I hate anime with a passion. I have rarely ever met someone who is only kind of into anime. Most are die hard fans who eat, sleep, and breath anime. They want to learn Japanese, go live in Japan, or marry a Japanese person. I've met a lot of anime nerds who are so into it and everything else Japanese that they get rediculously angry that the American version didn't pick up on this one subtle joke or insult only people from one specific area of Japan would understand. They're always way to old to watch cartoons too. I would expect nine or ten year olds to like this, but after being dragged to an anime con by a friend, I realized that most of them are in their late twenties to early fourties. Anime fans aren't like sports fans, or gamers, or even D&D nerds, they're more like cultists than anything else. To be fair, I do know one or two people who like a specific anime, and they don't act like cultists, but most of them do.
Not only are the fans mostly insane, the shows themselves are bizzare and I assume they are created by pedophiles. Most have a story line that is incomprehensible unless you have watched from the first episode, and generally centers around a group of kids that includes at least one twelve to fourteen year old girl with double D boobs. The plot is always something stupid like "the king of the teddy bears was killed so now there's a war going in the teddy bear world and only this one twelve year old girl with disturbingly large **** for her age can stop it while running around scantily clad". That's absolutely moronic, and really creepy. The fact that not only children but ADULTS watch this **** makes me think the end of the world may be near.
Whatever. I've wasted enough time on my hatred of anime. It sucks, the end.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *High5! Applauding*
Here's another post.
Girlonwire: I guess being a sketch/comic artist automatically entitles me to like anime. NO. I hate anime. I hate their huge shiny eyes, and how they stand too still, and how all the girls look the same, and how squeaky their voices are. I hate that everything is either cute and happy or dark and deranged. There's no grey area. Plus the way they quiver annoys me. I dunno, something about anime just bugs me. It's really not my drawing style or anything I'd ever willingly watch. I think the only exception to this moral i have, is Teen Titans. Because that show was just hilarious. But otherwise....no.
Anime Is Terrible
My boyfriend loves anime and it drives me nuts!!! I think its visually ugly, stupid, with dumb characterizations, unbelievable plots and horrendous music. It is degrading to women, mysogynistic and depressing. I don't understand how adults could possibly like it. To me, with people, it is a sign that they are not adults- at least not mentally!
(Snipped out a bit I didn't like)
Only someone completely messed up could create such worthless crap!
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: DING DING DING!! IT'S TIME FOR THE BONUS ROUND!~
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Sigh* You should never have written the first round.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Oy...round two...*deep sigh* Let's get this over with.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Hey, I found another awful one.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Chances are good that yours will be the truly awful one.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: This time, it should called: 'Cowboy Bebop at his Computer'.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Hah! My turn to throw your own advice back at you - please learn to use proper grammar!
Sensible Person: I hate most anime, because the characters are badly drawn
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: BURRRRRNNNNN! Hint: Compare this with this.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: some image or other that doesn't matter, and more otaku showing off. obviously you're going to have tons and tons and tons of different anime pictures. Hurray for you. Who cares? Maybe he wouldn't like either one anyway. Again, so what, who cares? Oh, right, you.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heh- there's actually a name for shots of poorly drawn scenes from anime. I can't remember what it's called, but some of them are pretty dang hilarious. I totally get where you're coming from.
👧k.bieber.styles: As Nariko Rainbow said: Compare this with this.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Yawn*
Sensible Person: with their big shiny eyes,
🤦🏽♀️BP: Yup. That's pretty much an everywhere-factor.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: As expected. But hey, don't take my word for it. Not all anime have the same character desginer.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: "Not all anime" this "Not all anime" that, "Not all anime fans" this, "Not all anime fans" that. Well there is enough of it around that does look the same enough for people to notice. You are not exactly acting unique either. So unless you have something that is truly intelligent and interesting to say, which I highly doubt in this case, cram it.
👧k.bieber.styles: Which are adorableeee!!!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Rolling eyes in extreme annoyance* Oh, bleck! To throw your own advice back at you, please try to learn not to be so hyper.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Sheesh, cool it! It's one thing to like the art style- it's another to have a conniption over it!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Another thing that separates the casual fan from the obnoxious ones known as otaku!
Sensible Person: the way they move, how the girls look like a pedophile's delight,
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Remember when you took a glance at Eri-chan?
🤦🏽♀️BP: Eri...CHAN? *facepalm*
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Tch* I noticed she used the freaking -chan too. *Chagrinned*
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: She's the role model here. Compare her to... this. (Which is totally supposed to be for pedophile bait.)
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Either or, there's no denying what he says is true. Sex is the driving force behind the massive fan cult that is otakuism. that's why they write shipping and Mary sue fanfics and make stupid erotic drawings of themselves with their favourite anime crushes, and why the otaku fanboys drool over the anime girl characters. That's why there is hentai at all.
🤦🏽♀️BP: And yes, a major factor with the psychos is the sex appeal. Trust me. I've seen people go completely brain-in-pants over the most innocent of characters/situations.
👧k.bieber.styles: Pedo's don't like anime. They like 13 year old girls dressed like skanks.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Wrong. They want to diddle kids, skanky-looking or not. Not every kid who gets abused by a pervo is a skank or dresses like a skank. IDIOT! And yes, pedos do like anime and anything else they can get into porn form.
🤦🏽♀️BP: A pedophile is going to go wherever he can get his fix. And I hate to break it to you, but there pretty much is a type of anime just for pedos. It's called lolicon. *shudder* Pretty much the attraction to underage girls- in every single worst possible way. Gah- one of the many things I wish I didn't know about. *nauseous expression*
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Aaaaagh! *Sickened scowl* And of course, they try to defend this trash too, with "She's not underage, she just looks it!" or "She's in a universe/culture where it's okay!" or ""It's not a real child, it's just a drawing!" any number of sick excuses.
But this explains all the Lolita crap otaku are into. Wonder what Lolita has to do with anime and otaku? There's your answer.
An excerpt from Wikipedia:
"Public attention was brought to bear on lolicon when Tsutomu Miyazaki kidnapped and murdered four girls between the ages of 4 and 7 in 1988 and 1989, committing acts of necrophilia with their corpses. He was found to be a "withdrawn and obsessive" otaku and in particular he enjoyed lolicon. The Tokyo High Court ruled Miyazaki sane, stating that "the murders were premeditated and stemmed from Miyazaki's sexual fantasies" and he was executed by hanging for his crimes on June 17, 2008."
There you go! An example of an otaku, so obsessive that he actually tortured and killed real people, and this was long before 4chan came out with their gibberish 'weeaboo' crap.
So like it or not, you chose to associate yourself with some fan base filled with pervs and nut cases, ,.
Sensible Person: and squeak when they talk.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Because, you know, every anime character's supposed to sound like a five-year-old! Totally! And no adult characters, no-sir-ee~! (Even the boys...?)
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: It's not just the anime characters who do that, the squealing "Kawaii!" cosplaying otakus with their stupid cat ears who meow and try to sound like cute little Japanese anime characters do this, so does some of the music they're into. Some of that stuff sounds like little more than robotic chipmunks.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Ugh, no kidding! And beyond the 'kawaii' and meowing, there's the 'ita' and general shrieking/squealing whenever something they like happens. Sheesh.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yes. Argh, so irritating! An embarrassment to the human race.
👧k.bieber.styles: I think it's soooo cute! :') Adorable! Awwwwwwwww
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, get a grip!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Ugh...! RELAX.
Sensible Person: There are some well drawn anime movies, and they are awesome in the way they are written, but I'm talking about
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Now watch as this otaku turd points out that movies aren't written.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: HOLD ON HERE. Do you understand here that not all anime are movies? 'Cuz for the good drawn ones, I know you're talkin' 'bout Miyazaki.
🤦🏽♀️BP: This...ugh. This is sapping my will to live.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Lol No kidding! Ugh!
Who cares if you know specifically which anime he's talking about? Nobody. Yeah I'm sure he knows anime comes in TV show form as well as movies, and of course, let's not forget the comic - excuse me - 'manga'
👧k.bieber.styles: STOP IT OR I SHALL GET Nariko Rainbow TO KILL YOU.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Oh, please. *rolls eyes*
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No, you won't. You're outa here! *Scowl*
Sensible Person: the Sailor Moon crap,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: when that started out as a little kid's show, it wasn't bad. And I mean the english show, not the Japanese one that came out before, with, or after it…
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heck, I didn't even know there was an American show. My only exposure to the show was the anime. Never cared for it. We're in the same boat, deleted.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: I barely remember it. A bunch of girls whizzing around the galaxy, or galaxies? Saving them from various dangers, and having a blast while doing it. i'm not surprised the English version was better. If it was...
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Oh-ho-ho. THE anime and manga that REINFORCED the magical girl genre, paving the way for gems such as Princess Tutu and Puella Magi Madoka Magica? BLASPHEMY!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Yadda yadda yadda, more name-dropping. Bo-ring! But that's just it, the problem with Sailor moon was that it didn't just stay a little kid's show. It, by your own admission, grew into a terrible fad that still hasn't gone away. Magical girl is not a genre, it's only a section of the anime genre. Gems? That's debatable, unless of course, you are an otaku…
Madoka Magica sucks!
All this soul-snatching crap - no, not into that. Your soul is your soul. It can't be destroyed or possessed by some mere character, it is what makes you you. Altering some character's behaviour and putting them in danger, even to the point of death by way of enchantments, drugs, some trauma or other, makes sense. Soul-switching, nope. Multi-universes? Nope, not into that either, if that's what we can call it. there is only one universe… Sounds pretty convoluted and pointless. A kind of Harry Potter on steroids.
Having said all that, I like ballet, and I like ducks. I also like fairy-tales, so would definitely give Princess Tutu a chance. Not to please any otaku, though. From the Wikipedia entry, it looks like it would indeed be excellent, in my humble opinion. Pretty dang appealing. I welled up a little while reading the info. Not over the love stuff, though. This one really does explore some deep human emotions and the best and the worst of human nature, in some very trying situations, with a bit of mystery thrown in.
👧k.bieber.styles: The Anime Hater Crap.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: the otaku. The anime-fan who takes it so dang personally when someone doesn't like anime or its fandom crap.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Relax! Just, relax! People are allowed to dislike anime! It's not like it's a crime against humanity! Sheesh...
Sensible Person: the power puff girl,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Power Puff Girls - here is the info.
I can see the appeal. They are very cute. And now that I know someone who likes them who is a sensible person, a fellow-meme-mangler, and nothing at all like the tool of an rpger/writer who first introduced me to them, I'd be willing to give them a chance. But - ugh. And issues with names again. Blossom, Bubbles, Buttercup? Mojo Jojo? Eeeeeurgh!
Now watch as this otaku does the typical thing and totally flips out because Sensible dared to compare Powerpuff Girls with some Japanese cartoons!
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Bwaha! You're destroying my childhood here, for calling an American-made cartoon a Japanese cartoon.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Disgusted sneer* So predictable! He never said that, you idiot! he was just comparing cartoons with cartoons! You're the one so terribly hung up on Japan!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Relax! He never said it was Japanese. Sheesh...
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Unless... you're talking about Powerpuff Girls Z, which in that case is partially accurate.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Desperately trying to split hairs again in order to sound like you think you know it all. *Rolling eyes* What's the difference? it's all stupid cartoons!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Ugh...never seen Powerpuff Girls Z...but does it really matter? Can we just move on?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: You're not missing much. Another suckish anime.
👧k.bieber.styles: Hey, I thought you were talking about Anime! Where did the power puff girls come from?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Well, it is a cartoon, after all, stupid…
Yes, anime is cartoons! It does not matter if it comes from Japan or America, if it's a cartoon, it's a cartoon!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Exactly! Sheesh, they get so obsessed with the 'anime is not cartoon', 'hentai is not porn' garbage- just accept it, people!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Which is absolute bull!They'd get mad if we called what gets thrown away at a Japanese restaurant "garbage" insisting it's not garbage, it's - whatever the Japanese word is for garbage.
Sensible Person: the dragon ball z garbage that kids love.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Well, I suppose I'm an exception to that, but...not gonna lie, it is pretty darn stupid. I concede the victory.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Hehe. As you even pointed out earlier, it's meant to be. The well-rounded individual, the casual fan knows that. And someone like me could give it a chance knowing the company was aiming for ridiculous. The otaku will either scream about it being the best thing since sushi, and how it's a sin to dislike it, or else go on a tirade about how it sucks but only to promote some other anime that, in all likelihood, sucks a hundred times worse.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Yeah... I could understand that part. After all, only KIDS love this stuff. (Being sarcastic here!)
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: And you never make blanket statements. *Sarcasm* Oh my goodness!
👧k.bieber.styles: Was that a part of anime? Ooh I didn't know!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Attempt at being witty&cute, fail! Get lost!
Sensible Person: I don't understand it, really, because there is no substance to these shows,
🤦🏽♀️BP: Yup! Another point. Although, that is the point with a lot of shows.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: that's pretty much the whole point. they're not supposed to be War And Peace.
👧k.bieber.styles: Then you must be blind.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No, she just doesn't like it, doesn't relate to it, so be a big girl and deal with it. Oh, that's right, you can't.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Nope. Totally wrong here. Evangelion
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Another name-drop, golly, you're just going to go on and on, yammering and boasting about all the animes you've been into until everybody just bows in submission to your total all-knowing awesomeness. *Sneer*
🤦🏽♀️BP: Heh- from what I heard, Evengelion was a terribly convoluted mess with a horrible wrap-up. But I might be thinking of something else...either way, that says a lot.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No, I think you have that right.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: is as deep as Lake Superior,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf:Oh, the cheesiness! It's deep in over-killed cliche crud. Futuristic apocalyptic, teenage boy working some monstrous type of machine, oh, right, this is very convoluted and unrealistic, so, more advanced, got it…
🤦🏽♀️BP: Pff! Since when are deep and convoluted the same thing?
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: while Madoka Magica
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Another one, bleck, I'm particularly sick of this name being dropped all over this one site because of this otaku chick! Madoka Magica this, Madoka Magica that. Madoka Magica Madoka Magica Madaka Mogica Madiculous Moonbatcrap-chakka! For the love of all things sane, shut the hex up!
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: takes at least an hour for everything to come in place.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Uh...should I be impressed?
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Like any other longer show… Doesn't matter. It still sucks.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: (If I'm right here, cos I have yet to see Eva.)
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: And when you do, don't come rushing up in breathless excitement to tell me about it, because I don't give a crap.
Sensible Person: and it so flat and expressionless that you just shake your head,
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Either that or it's wildly exaggerated.
🤦🏽♀️BP: I don't have much experience with the flat and expressionless variety, but that would definitely be irritating.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: The flat and expressionlessness probably just comes into it because there's enough anime that's so assembly-line that it's recognizable for what it is right away, and there's just so much of it being foisted on non-fans and casual fans by crazy otaku that a lot of people are bored to the point of numb.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Expect for the 4-komas and gag shows.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: I have no idea what the heck you just said, but still don't care.
🤦🏽♀️BP: Ditto. I have no clue...
👧k.bieber.styles: Since when were anime expressionless? Now you are really blind.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: She just doesn't see the appeal. That is not a crime…
🤦🏽♀️BP: Exactly! And haven't we already covered that the entire genre can be ruined for someone with one bad experience? You can't just shred this person for not having a positive experience.
Sensible Person: and are baffled by why people love it with a passion.
Nariko🌈🐴Rainbow: Because some of it is generally good.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: No, it's merely because people have different tastes.
🤦🏽♀️BP: And you're allowed to not like it. And the crazies will preach the same tolerance, and yet, the second someone doesn't like their beloved favorite, they blow a gasket- yeah, sounds real tolerant...
Rainbow Nariko: (Goes off and watches K-On!.)
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: As if anyone cares.
👧k.bieber.styles: Cuz it is AWESOMEEEE!!!!
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: *Facepalm*Well excuse me for disagreeing. *Scowl* Just - shut - up!
🤦🏽♀️BP: Sheesh, no need to shout! You're not proving a point- well, not a point you WANT to prove...ugh...
GAH. This is too much...this is all I can handle for one day. SHEESH.
🧝♀️Ocean Elf: Ugh! Me as well!
We've had it to here with you fan-brats!
Over and out! *Slam*
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