Jane Mary Sue Richardson The Killer

Why She Deserves No Love and Her Author Deserves No Respect

Jane The Killer always had my contempt for being a sadistic and bloody hypocrite, and that remains the strongest part of my dislike. But there are plenty of other reasons she is disliked by other people along with me, for being such a monumental Mary Sue.

There's her basic backstory and description as well as an extended story about how Jane got her ridiculous overload of super powers that turned out to be useless as Jane only added to the mass murder problem instead of what she was supposed to do - try to help put an end to it.

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The following is taken from Shirawolf1's entry. As usual, I'll make comments throughout it and to the comments she received.


Jane The Killer, Oh My!

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Jane the Killer,Oh my!

by Shirawolf1, Aug 24, 2012, 1:51:07 PM

🐺Shirawolf1: Well my topic today on Shira's Critique/Rant Journal (*Laughs* yes I'm doing those now) is the Infamous Jane the killer! (*Everyone claps*)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Claps and jeers*

🐺Shirawolf1: I didn't know she was "That infamous We will be assessing the Mary sue-dom of Jane and how she could improve like make it known WHY she is a Mary sue.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Since she is a gender-bend of Jeff The Killer, that makes her a sue. But there are scads of other reasons she is one.

🐺Shirawolf1: She is an uber powerful demon/devil according to the creator

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: And she is adored or feared by the other characters.

🐺Shirawolf1: That doesnt sound all that creative does it?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No, it doesn't. There are already way too many of those, as well as characters who are said to have a good side and an evil side, because they are either related to a demon or the devil, or because madness runs in the family.

🐺Shirawolf1: her story doesnt fit together well either. For all who haven't read it I'll show you and show where it doesn't fit together.:

I'll tell you to read some sentences and passages,and then tell you where they don't come together.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Cool! You'll no doubt be picking out things I didn't even realize, let alone cover. Oh, this is going to be fun!

💢🐕MrAngryDog: Jane Richardson

Statistics and background of Jane the Killer

by MrAngryDog, Jun 29, 2012, 8:46:55 AM

Jane the Killer

In-Story information

Classification: Mass Murderer

Signature weapon: Machetes

Stomping grounds: Downtown at night

Summary: Unstoppable serial killer created by the U.S. Government...

Name: Jane Richardson

Height (approx.) 5 ft. 9 inches

Weight (approx.) 132 lbs

D.O.B: 1st September 1985

P.O.B: Orange County, California

Present Age: 27 years old

Father: Bruce Tod Richardson

Mother: Paula Richardson (née Engel)

Siblings: Jessie Richardson (sister)

Last sighting: Van Nuys, Los Angeles

Body count: 211 People

1 boom box playing Gangsta Rap

1 ambulance

1 low-rider

1 computer

1 giant TV

1 Jeff the killer fan shrine

7 occupied tents

1 guard dog

Jeff the Killer's childhood home

Jeff fangirl convention


Jane was born in a sleepy little suburb of Orange County, California to Bruce and Paula Richardson. A very sweet child, loving daughter, and caring sister,

Jane made a promise to her family that they would be avenged if anything happened to them as far as someone hurting them was concerned.

By 1997, when Jane was 12-years-old, she was constantly made fun of in school because of her sexual orientation and got caught making out with a cute girl during recess.

🐺Shirawolf1: 1. (Has never been to a public school,because it happens ALL the time.)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Hmm, I think "making out" means something different to you than it does to me. I always thought it meant actually having sex, while PDA - public display of affection AKA kissing, walking arm in arm, cuddling was the term for what kids sometimes do in the halls and on the school grounds. Yes, sometimes kids do get in trouble for PDA, especially deep kissing.

💢🐕MrAngryDog: The girl that Jane was amorously infatuated with noticed two bullies-- a couple of mean girls giving Jane a hard time and she (the girl) shouted angrily at them to leave her alone, but didn't take her seriously. Jane had enough of being made fun of and made an example of her two tormentors. During the fight, Jane got a cut on her lip. She glared at the two bullies ominously, wiped the blood from her lip, and licked it off her fingers.

🐺Shirawolf1: 2. What does that have to do with the story? Nothing? Then why is it there?!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf:Probably an attempt to make Jane look badarse, maybe hinting at the idea that she could have vampiric tendencies. Bleh.

💢🐕MrAngryDog: The fight continued until a nearby classroom was dispatched and teachers had to pull the girls away from each other. When Jane's family came to the school and the principle told them what happened, Mr. Richardson was outraged. Not at what had transpired, but because his daughter got made fun of and bullied around for being gay, and nobody in the school done nothing about it.

🐺Shirawolf1: 3. You say it like she said something.

💢🐕MrAngryDog: The school was sued, and Jane was transferred to a different school who didn't care what sexual orientation you were.

🐺Shirawolf1: 4. Wait...Back it up.That's not a very valid reason to sue.And why didn't they pick the 2nd school first?

💢🐕MrAngryDog: They accepted you for you.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Because naturally if you aren't just brimming with gay pride, you are judged as not excepting people for who they are. Oh, please! SJW much?

💢🐕MrAngryDog: By age 25, Jane had found work at a children's daycare center. For two reasons: it paid good-- $9.22 an hour, she loved children, and children loved her. 🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Around 2010, and Jane couldn't be a poorer fit for working in a daycare!

Jane's kid sister was about ready to graduate from high school until Jessie was brutally beaten by the popular girl for her not falling into the criteria of "cool kids." Jessie was admitted to the hospital's ICU and lapsed into a coma several weeks later.

🐺Shirawolf1: 5. Wait up.I've never seen or heard of someone being 'beaten into a coma.A so called "Popular girl" would never be able to do that

6. wait if Jane is 27,then the popular girl should be also.Or did she just get left back?*Breaks into laughing fit*

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Lol I think they were still talking about Jessie, who was the younger sister.

🐺Shirawolf1: 7.when Jane was 12-years-old/got caught making out with a cute girl during recess.


🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Yes, but this was years later when lil sis was beaten by another "popular" kid.

💢🐕MrAngryDog: Jane, very heart-broken and devastated over what happened to her sister, stayed by her side until she recovered.

If you are wondering how Jane got her powers, this should answer all your questions. Her powers were the result of a lab experiment.

🐺Shirawolf1: *Is now pacing the room* heres a very educated statement from 🙃~FangirlXOfEverything:

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Twitch* 🙃~FangirlXOfEverything:? *Shakes head, skeptical expression* I may interrupt to insert comments.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Lets see....what could I say...

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Same doubtful look* You tell me.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Jane the Killer is actually the name of Fem!Jeff The Killer, also its not cool to just take his name and put her's in front.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Agreed.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Her description is extremely Mary Sue-ish.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Again, true. Though it is common for fangirls to love their own Mary Sues but dislike those written by others.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Even Jeff has his flaws,

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Rolling eyes* You sound like you actually like that sadistic creep.

Jeff is all fault from start to endless spinoffs.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: and its totally idiotic to make her "supr powrfullly awsum"

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Ugh! *Cringe* 'super powerfully awesome.'

Bad typing aside, I agree, it is idiotic to give her such an insane amount of super powers, and just as insane to do the same with Jeff.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Its stupid, and unrealistic.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: True. But then, creepy pastas aren't going for realistic.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: If she was all powerful, there would be no fairness if she ever did fight Jeff.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Jeff is over powered too, so their fight would just drag on into the next millennium.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Her height and weight are sooooo off.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That's because she's meant to be a tall "beautiful" bad arse that just intimidates and amazes everyone. *Rolling eyes* Kickarse supermodel basically.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: I'm assuming the list is what she kills. Its completely random and stupid. What exactly did she kill at Jeff's childhood home? He killed his parents and brother.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Nope, the ending was open for Liu to make an escape. Funny how everybody is just cool with Jeff being over powered and they just conclude that he actually killed Liu when the 2011 story ended with him standing over him, ready to stab him, and it didn't actually say he was able to carry it out, especially when Liu awoke. Liu should've been struggling for his life and if Jeff could just manhandle him with one hand and hold him down while stabbing him with the knife in the other hand, that means Jeff is over powered with super strength that he inexplicably got from either the fire or from going cray cray.

Liu doesn't get killed. He joins Jeff in a life of crime.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Or did she just pointlessly kill the home? There's nothing left. And his fanclub?? Really? Do you just hate Jeff the Killer or anyone who likes him?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No, I think the list is just all the things she's into or that she stole off murder victims, including those of Jeff.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Once again, what she destroys/kills is completely pointless and irrelevant.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Not really. Not if she's called "Jane The Killer" the point is that she kills, and who she kills sort of matters. But I don't think the list has anything to do with the actual killings except that she got a lot of loot from hers and Jeff's killings. And she would keep a Jeff shrine and go to Jeff fangirl conventions. Because is just that obsessed.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Oh, the old "i gotz bulied for mah gayness" ploy. Really? Tons of kids get bullied for sexual orientation,

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Tons of kids get bullied for every reason and for no reason at all. Kids get bullied because kids are incredibly mean to one another.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: and I doubt anyone would make out at the age of 12.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That's what I was thinking too. 12 is way too young and no decent adult who caught 12 year olds actually having sex on their property would just let that happen. Having said that, there are kids even younger who will claim they've done it just to try sounding cool or grown up, when the opposite is true.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: You stole the story of Jeff with the bullying thing, and the deal with a sibling. You ripped off the basic storyline, and did it terribly.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Agreed.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Was there a point to her licking blood off her lip? No....okay then.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No kidding. So Jane can lick her wounds. Whatever.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Whooooo, they sued the school. Cool.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Not.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: What does this have to do with anything.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: It's just another case of an author promoting their favourite political agenda through their writing.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: I doubt any father would do that, I think he'd be a little more concerned about the fact that his 12 YEAR OLD daughter was making out with someone.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Exactly.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: There is also no-such thing as a place that doesn't have people who care about your sexuality.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Uh, actually there are. Places that sell sex toys probably don't care about any individual's sexuality, because whatever their customers are into, they can by accessories - well, let's not go there. Same for clubs that cater to all kinds. None of the above would I ever be seen in.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: .....Her kid sister was beaten up for not being cool.....that doesn't happen. They just make fun of you and put you with the other outcasts....have you been to a public school? And I've never seen a popular girl who can beat someone into a coma. They usually are to prissy for that.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Here's where we agree once again.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: Some woman turned her into a devil.....okay. I'm not going to rant again on the Mary Sue quality there.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I think it was a number of people. It was this weird cabal of FBCIA scientists that pumped her full of some toxic liquid hate serum that really brought out the monster that lurked within Jane the whole time. Cliche.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: I just love how you just say that Jeff killed her parents. There's no reason, not story, no showing of her turning into the insane killer she is. Its totally random, and if that's her only reason for wanting to brutally murder him,

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Which would be ample reason for any normal person to want to kill somebody, but the time is way off. Jane's story was said to happen in 2002, but Jeff only killed in 2008 at the earliest when it was 13.

More to the point, Jane didn't even try to go after Jeff, she killed at least 211 other people instead, so that makes her whole story along with her super powers, crumble.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: then she obviously cannot handle anything.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: True.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: He kills hundreds and hundreds of people, and she goes after him for killing her parents, killing MORE in the process.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That's exactly what makes her a sad joke as well as a Mary Sue. A supreme hypocrite who can't even be bothered really gunning for Jeff, but she only helps him kill more people, brutally, I might add. That's the thing most despicable about her.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: If you are going to go after someone for murdering your family, would you really want to kill more people, doing the same thing to them.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Obviously Jane's brain is too full of herself and addicted to violence to let a little thing like logic and conscience get in the way. She simply has none.

🙃~FangirlXOfEverything: All in all, this could be good if it was more detailed and well rounded, but right now...its a total fail.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Well rounded, I'll agree that's what it would need to be. But too much of the wrong kind of detail can really get annoying too.


Jane The Killer Richardson, Created From Liquid Hate

And all of these Jeff stories that go on and on about his stupid face-carve smile, insane eyes, black hair, "ominous" laugh/voice and yada yada.:

infamous 2011 Jeff and Randy pasta story with Jess and a bit of Jane A.

Jane The Killer, The Real Story, Victim's Tears, Jane Arkensaw

Detective Reggie Hurbrow

The return Of Jeff - girl and Detective Get Murdered

Jeff, A First Encounter

Jeff, Children's Tears

Jeff The Killer, Go To Sleep

Jeff The Killer, Attack From Shattered Memory Story

Callum, Jane The Killer Arkensaw's Sappy Sidekick

Jeff And Jane Revenge Cyber Chat

2012 December Jeff Attack On Allans from Jane VS. Jeff The Killers

Camille The Would-be Killer

Nina Woods The Killer

Jana The Killer

Jane, fail. Jeff, fail.

🐺Shirawolf1: Extremely smart statement in her defense.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Well, not bad, for a fangirl.

🐺Shirawolf1: and heres what Jane's creator~Angrypuppy(*Chuckles*) said in reply:

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Snicker*

💢🐕MrAngryDog: if i wanted to get your two cents worth, i would reach for the take-a-penny tray.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Well, that sort of depends on where she put her rant. If she stuck it on her own site/journal/blog, then you have only to ignore her and move on with your life. If she posted it on your own journal/blog/site, I can sort of see why you'd get ticked, but really, Jane is a Sue, whether you like it or not.

💢🐕MrAngryDog: as far as your useless rant goes, that's your period talking.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Okay, you've just used that stupid sexist trope, and that means you've given me the right to pull no punches when tearing your precious Jane to pieces. I have no respect for guys who dismiss anything negative coming from a girl as being on her period. You really blew it, dude.

💢🐕MrAngryDog: i don't trust anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Good gosh, you really buy into that whole stupid misogynistic stuff that should, along with feminism, be gone with the dark ages. That stupid meme has been around since I was a kid. With such a caveman brain, it's no wonder your character and stories suck so badly.

💢🐕MrAngryDog: pi55 off.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Wow. I see a lot of angry Jane in you. she must be something of a self-insert. To some degree anyway.

🐺Shirawolf1: Well that was very *Cough* Mature,Angrypuppy.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Jeering*

So there you have it, the author of Jane The Killer is a mental midget and a jerk.


🐺Shirawolf1: All in all Jane,needs work.Lots of work to bee a good pastamonster. and sadly what creepypasta needed was a Bad-arse female killer

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Not really. It's only creepy pasta after all.

🐺Shirawolf1: but, Jane,Didn't meet the *umph* Qualifications.

That's all for now Angrypuppy fans and Jane haters!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: As one of the opposition to the Jane fandom and what the character stands for, I enjoyed reading this mangle and adding it in with mine.


🤫xXThe-WhispererXx Dec 22, 2013 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Flare this crap

🦇Batty-Batter Sep 12, 2013 Hobbyist Digital Artist

Personally, I agree.

I never heard this original story of Jane, but I know what's called the 'Real Story' which marks Jane as a normal girl that lived near Jeff, which Jeff ends up killing her mom and dad as well as friends, and attempted to kill her.. However she survived a fire.. Which affected her worse than Jeff, and caused her to hold a grudge against Jeff. The burns and the like caused her to wear a mask (Which was a gift from Jeff in the story I read.. Which is retarded.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That's a different Jane. It's Jane Arkensaw, who calls herself "Jane Everlasting" but whom I have dubbed "Jane The Vengeful".

🦇Batty-Batter: If Jeff wanted to kill her or make her suffer.. He wouldn't had given her a mask with black fabric over the eye holes so she can see out but no be seen )

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Facepalms repeatedly*

Sorry for the conniption, but - aaaaaaaaagh! This statement is so whack that I just gotta blow my top for a while.

- *Deep breath* Okay... Let's get something straight, first off.

Yes, Jeff wanted to make Jane suffer...Else he would not have killed her parents, then kidnapped her, made her see their mutilated corpses, then set her on fire, alive! He was relishing that experience!

Next, the stupid mask. My theory behind that besides Jeff having Swiss cheese for a brain, is this. The mask was a taunt. That's what Jeff does, he taunts people, including any surviving victims of his attacks. He definitely doesn't operate on a guilty conscience, out of the goodness of his heart, because he has none...

What I find retarded is that Jane accepted that mask. If some creep did to me what Jeff did to Jane, you can be sure I would, with as much violence as possible, trash any so-called gifts from sed creep in a heartbeat.

🦇Batty-Batter: Jane isn't well written from what I've seen, but this other story of Jane seems really, really far better.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No, they all suck.

🦇Batty-Batter: The creator, honestly, seems like a jerk and a poor writer.

Here's the link if you want it:

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That story has been deleted and moved to the SpinPasta wiki.

🦇Batty-Batter: It holds no mention of Jane becoming a 'God' or having any 'Godly' powers, just so you know.

And I know this journal is more than a year old, I just wanted to agree and show you that much. I'm not fighting in Jane's defense, as I am a neutral party.

🐺Shirawolf1 Oct 20, 2013

Thats fine! :D

Jane just kind of rubs me, and alot of creepypasta fans the wrong way.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: And not only creepy pasta fans.

🦇Batty-Batter Oct 20, 2013 Hobbyist Digital Artist

Me too, anyway.

thank you for your time and reading~

🕷LeVeuveNoire May 22, 2013 Student Traditional Artist


🐯tultsi93 Edited Apr 21, 2016 Hobbyist Artist

That version of Jane the Killer I have never heard about. I've heard that other one where she lives near by Jeff. It's really annoying that a girl, what Jeff hardly knows, becomes his worst enemy. That's my reason to hate Jane. And other reason is taht she's rippoff of Jeff the Killer, who is a Gary Stu.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That's a dumb reason to hate a character. I mean what the heck does freaking gender have to do with it? If Jeff killed Jane Arkensaw's parents and made her see the results, then tortured her nearly to death, she's got every reason to become his worst enemy. I'm just not quite convinced about her because some things about her behaviour don't add up.

🤫xXThe-WhispererXx Dec 22, 2013 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Flare this crap

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: You already said that...


Why I think Jane the Killer is a sue

by KashaDude, Jun 25, 2012, 3:01:04 AM

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: Ok, So I've made characters that are "sues" So I think I should know what they look like. I've read Jane's story, And I have to say....What the flare? Who is "Twice as sadistic, yet doesn't kill women, children, and young lovers"? If you are twice as sadistic a Jeff the Killer (Which seems abit impossible, To me) You would kill anyone who messed with you, Heck, You would kill anyone you see.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: But Jane does kill anyone. She killed, in a very gory way, a young couple and left their baby orphaned in that Letter From Jane The Killer meme. So this whole claim that she can't bring herself to kill babies doesn't ring true. Not buying it for a second.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: Also, Who wears Perfume and Body Glitter on a freakin KILLLING SPREE?! You sound like a girl going to her prom or something. Seriously, What killer would wear ANY of that? They aren't worried about how they are going to look when killing people, They are only thinking about killing people.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No kidding. That was probably added into the meme for creepy effect. But since she smokes Virginia Slims, I would've thought she would smell more like cigarettes. The body glitter thing makes no sense. But Jane is so in love with herself that she probably goes back home and admires herself in the mirror. Or maybe she just wants to glitter like Ed Cullen.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: Also, She is similar to Jeff, And appears as a knock-off of Jeff.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Yep, that's why she is called "Jane The Killer".

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: But, I do love her design, Though. It's just that, What killer does any of this?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: If it comes to that, what killer or any other character do the twisted stupid things Jeff does?

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: That's all I have to say for now...

:EDIT: 7/8/12

Alright, Time for more ranting...

So it turns out that I missed a few things about Jane.

First off, She can never DIE, She can HEAL herself, And She is an UNSTOPPABLE, UNKILLABLE woman, endowed with SUPERNATURAL powers. Seriously, WTF?! She is a HUMAN. Humans can be killed, They can be stopped, And they can't have supernatural powers!

With all these powers, She really is a Mary-Sue -_-

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Exactly!

Then when you consider how all the other characters trip over themselves to kiss her butt or tippy-toe around her to avoid her wrath, ugh, and she has done nothing to deserve this coddling, she is definitely a Sue.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: Also, In her bio, It says she met a woman named Lucy. Lucy says that she is a manifestation of the devil. Really? Seriously?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: WTH?

Gah! That's stupid.

Though I don't remember any Lucy. I must've missed that bit somewhere. But of all the names to be picked to represent a she-devil, Lucy? As in short for Lucifer? Oh, brother! *Rolling eyes*

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: And, In the newest story, It says that she RIPPED a man's arms off. SERIOUSLY?! Even someone like my dad (Who is WAY stronger then Jane) Can't pull a man's arms off!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No kidding!

This chick is such a Mary Sue that she's a parody.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: And like I said before, I don't hate Jane entirely. I like her design alot. If the person who made Jane could just re-think her so she wasn't a mary-sue, I would like Jane.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I wouldn't, not even then.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: I will update if I need to rant about anything else.

:EDIT: 8/17/12

Time for more ranting -_-

Alright, I can understand her being a lesbian. But, If she is supposed to be "Twice as sadistic" As Jeff, Wouldn't she have killed her lover already?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I wasn't aware she had one, though that's probably why, she must've killed her. This is making me laugh.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: Anyway, Not only is she lesbian, She hates most men (Save for young boy).

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That young boy being Jeff The Killer.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: Alright, One of my friends is a lesbian, And she doesn't hate men! Her best friend is a guy!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Fine. I don't care. This has nothing to do with why Jane is a Mary Sue any more.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude: Her catchphrase "Don't go to sleep." Wow, Aren't you original? -_-

Jeff's is "Go to sleep." So, Jane's phrase is basically Jeff's phrase with "Don't" Added to the beginning.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Yep. Proves she's a knockoff as well as a Sue. Although another phrase I've seen associated with her is "Sleep well."


🦁XxScourageXx Dec 10, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

I Love How Accurate This Is. :) Good Work! :D

👸✨PrincessSparkleGem Dec 8, 2015 Student Digital Artist

And Nina the killer is a mary sue too

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Dec 8, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

Oh, of course.

Most killer ocs are

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, wow, that's the truth!

🌸the88cherryice Sep 7, 2015

I'm writing it with my feets because I'm clapping my hands! :lol: thank you for doing it!

🦄pinkiecakekawaii Aug 26, 2015

finally! someone who agrees with me!

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Ugh. Really? Considering that handle? *Cringe*

🐯tultsi93 Jul 16, 2015 Hobbyist Artist

Yay! Someone agrees with me! Chica's Happy Dance (Chat Icon)

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: "Chica's"? Ugh.

⛓Chokiio Jun 6, 2015 Hobbyist Digital Artist

holy crap finally somebody agrees with me

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Jun 6, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

Well, yeah, she's a horrible, honestly.

⛓Chokiio Jun 6, 2015 Hobbyist Digital Artist

i just dont see why EVERYBODY thinks she's so great

it was just another simple "the killer" knockoff, why the he|| is she so popular

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Heck yeah! :) She and Jeff both stink.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Jun 6, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

Well, that, and she's over powered as he||.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Yeah, over powered, not to be confused with overpowered, though to hear it being said, someone could get the opposite meaning. Jane is over powered, (two words) meaning she overpowers everyone else. (One word.) Just putting that out there because I was confused by the term at first.

🙎🏻‍♂️Ajones123 Edited May 2, 2015

I think Jane is awesome. And she's a lesbian? So what?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Too bad for you. And chill out.

Moving along.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude May 2, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

*clip* the fact that Jane is dating despite the fact that she is a murderer, who can loose her train of thought in an instant, and kill both her sister and her girlfriend, since she's the only one who has survived being pumped with that liquid stuff. Seriously, I'm surprised the scientists in her story aren't paying attention to that fact.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Wait, she killed her sister?

But I agree, those *cough* poor excuses for scientists, you'd think after killing 25 people with this toxic serum, they'd take the hint and drop it. And they should at the very least, be locked up for wrongful death.

🙎🏻‍♂️Ajones123 May 2, 2015

You should go back to MrAngryDog's profile and learn more about her. You have the story mixed up. Bwenching about it won't do anything.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Get over yourself, it's time more people put this over powered monster Mary Sue in her place. Venting about it actually does some good. It makes the person doing the venting feel better, and it makes others realize they're not alone in secretly hating this stupid character.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Edited May 2, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

Um, no?

I'm pretty right about that. She has a girlfriend, named Mary, and she has a sister named Jessica, from my memory. If you're referring to the liquid hate stuff, have this.

"Twenty-five test subjects died from cardiac arrest as a result of the serum being too strong. However, one young lady, a miss Jane Richardson survived." -

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I thought the sister was simply called "Jessie" not Jessica. So that's who this Mary is, Jane's gf. Well I guess that answers something I didn't really care about anyway. Mary was just suddenly mentioned in the story and she just seemed to come out of nowhere. Oh well. *Yawn*

🙎🏻‍♂️Ajones123 May 3, 2015

Ok. What about it?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Oh please. Give it a rest.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude May 3, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

What do you mean "what about it"?

🙎🏻‍♂️Ajones123 May 3, 2015

The whole comment. You're making a big useless deal out of this.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No. You're just throwing a big useless hissy fit because you take it personally that somebody doesn't like Jane.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude May 3, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

I'm sorry for providing facts?

Like you basically asked?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Lol! Owned.

🧛‍♂️DrakynWyrm Feb 2, 2015 Hobbyist Digital Artist

May I ask?

The version you read, was it made by "MrAngryDog" or "darkangryprincess"? I get the versions messed up, and I fan's know who wrote "Jane's letter" and who wrote, "The Real Story. (Jane Arkansas version)" :/

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Feb 2, 2015 Hobbyist General Artist

It was made by MrAngryDog.

🧛‍♂️DrakynWyrm Feb 3, 2015 Hobbyist Digital Artist

Thank you.

😼OkamiNiki Sep 14, 2014

Um, I'm not trying to be rude but are you sure you didn't get all those stories mixed with the original one? ( jtk.wikia.com/wiki/Jane_the_Killer… )

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That story is 1. Jane Arkensaw, not Jane the Killer Richardson. 2. Deleted and punted down to the Spinpasta wikia.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Sep 15, 2014 Hobbyist General Artist

Well, this was made a while ago.

But the overall fact that she's a sue doesn't really change.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: True. Both Janes are Sues. Jane Richardson is the bigger Sue of the two.

😼OkamiNiki Sep 15, 2014


😸RandomPurpleKitty9 Aug 2, 2014 Student General Artist

Have you heard of the other Jane The Killer ( Arkensaw/Everlasting ) ?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Cringe* ugh. The handles people use.

Jane Arkensaw is not Jane The Killer.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Aug 3, 2014 Hobbyist General Artist

Actually, yes.

They're not the best, but their story actually makes a bit more sense.

😸RandomPurpleKitty9 Aug 3, 2014 Student General Artist

ok, I agree

😶fricklefrackle May 6, 2014 Hobbyist General Artist

Flaring Hamgod. PERFUME?! "Oh my gawsh, I'm Jane! I'm gonna be a crap head and wear perfume as I kill victims!" Everyone (censored censored) worships Jane! WHYYYYYYYY?!?!?!?

🙅‍♂️KashaDude May 6, 2014 Hobbyist General Artist

Well, she doesn't do it anymore, but the character is still overpowered.

🐜IkaNe96 Apr 19, 2014 Hobbyist Artist

OMG this is true..THIS IS TRUE!!!screamsplz: I agree with you!! All of it!!! Jane is copied from jeff!! Anyway those the creator has to think before to do a story such a thing like that!! what a stupid!!! And WTF she wear a perfume?! What a shame!? Nobody wear a perfume when they want to kill another person!! WHAT A SHAME..WAHT A flariNG SHAME... [Sorry if i have a bad language I use it]

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Apr 20, 2014 Hobbyist General Artist

Well, she has gone through changes, but she's still overpowered.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: And like Jeff, absolutely nothing can ever redeem her in my eyes.

🕹crazygamerchix Apr 14, 2014 Student Artist

well, jane does kill women...... and she can die. she died in jeff vs jane because of child birth. thats not even half of how jeff could kill her. I like jane. THis is a real definition of a marysue: "A Mary Sue character is usually written by a beginning author. Often, the Mary Sue is a self-insert with a few "improvements" (ex. better body, more popular, etc). The Mary Sue character is almost always beautiful, smart, etc... In short, she is the "perfect" girl. The Mary Sue usually falls in love with the author's favorite character(s) and winds up upstaging all of the other characters in the book/series/universe."

Though I respect your opinion, I do not side with the people who call her a mary-sue. besides we all have our own opions on certain characters.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: It doesn't take all those traits to make a Sue. Only one is needed. Jane has at least three characteristics that make her a Sue. First, she was made in reaction/response/as a kind of rival against Jeff The Killer. She is totally coddled by the other characters. She is over powered. Her "beautiful" appearance is noted more than once in her story and so is her apparently spectacularly clean blood. She gets praised by one character for having a lot of talent, all because she plugged her pancake syrup to an agent. She totally awestruck other characters during her date with the liquid hate. She was glommed all to heck by sister Jessie and gf Mary when getting home. Not to mention that sickening NDE scene during the time she flatlined while receiving the liquid hate. Even her name makes her a Jeff The Killer gender-bend.

There's more than one Jeff VS. Jane story.

J VS J Cyber Revenge Chat

J VS. J 1 Soul-stealing

J VS. J Sex & Fight

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Apr 14, 2014 Hobbyist General Artist

Jane never died to child birth. That wasn't her story, apparently.

And, to be honest, Jane's kind of perfect. Sure, she's no self-insert, but she has the perfect body, everyone likes her, and she never faces any sort of challenge. Due to the fact that she's immortal, she really can't lose a battle.

So, she is overpowered.

🕹crazygamerchix Apr 14, 2014 Student Artist

no the child birth isn't from her story its from jeff the killer vs jane the killer

and as i said earlier i respect your opinion.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Apr 14, 2014 Hobbyist General Artist

Yeah, so it's not canon. She never had sex with Jeff to begin with.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Canon really doesn't come into it much if at all when it comes to this genre. Not when it's fan-made characters like Jeff or Jane, either one. The question about wrecking canon only comes into play when creepy pastas muck about with famous fictional characters and series.

🦔NikkiTheHedgeBat Apr 13, 2014

Yeah -_- This is soooooo true...So, why Jane is so flaring popular!? This is SOOOOO annoying!!! :ono:

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Apr 13, 2014 Hobbyist General Artist

Beats me.

The creator needs to get his head straight.

🐭Prettyxmouse Aug 5, 2013 Hobbyist Digital Artist

I just read a few replies in the comment section below..

And I have to agree, Jeff's Story to how he became a creepypasta just sucks a little..

Sure it had original ideas, but it just seemed as though no human would do that..

:shrug: Call on the "Fandom Police" or something, I just think that it doesn't.. suit.

Anyways, on to Jane the Killer! I think she is.. TOO over powerful, I mean who is UN-KILL ABLE, UN-DEAD, HEALING & UNSTOPPABLE..?? That's just too much.. And I know what I'm saying since I've made a few characters which are "Mary-Sueish".

All in all, no story/body is perfect, if the creator would just somehow LISTEN to people than RANT at them for "hating" Jane and "fapping/praising" to Jeff. And then MAYBE change Jane so she won't be so powerful, I would actually like her..

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Jeff is a pasta. That's the whole point, he isn't a normal human. Even if Jane wasn't so over powered, she'd still be loathsome right along with Jeff. But the overdone powers just add an extra layer of annoyance on to the loathing.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Aug 5, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

No no, It's fine. I agree that Jeff doesn't have a good story. It makes no sense, to me.

I agree. Jane has the capability to become such a good character, but the author just won't listen.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: The character is simply hopeless trash.

🐭Prettyxmouse Aug 5, 2013 Hobbyist Digital Artist

:phew: I'm glad~ :)

It's so sad when people don't listen to you and they decide to go their own way, thus making more enemies and rivals.. :/~

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Aug 5, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

Yeah, I hate when that happens too.

👧Alecia1974 Jun 9, 2013

Yep. She really killed (haha) the whole Jeff storyline. I don't like anything about the series, and to me she just seems like one big Mary Sue -- no better than bony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way. It's really nothing more than a Jeff fan who wanted to make a character just like him but (of course) so much more powerful. It's ridiculous.

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Jun 10, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist


No one likes an over-powered character.

🤖timelordsapprentice Mar 19, 2013 Hobbyist

Thank you, no one sees her as a sue but she is!

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Mar 20, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist


I don't know why they see her as a good character.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: I couldn't agree with your sentiment more.

😢CreepypastaGal Feb 8, 2013 Writer

Jane is actually pretty awesome.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: That doesn't say much for you...

🙅‍♂️KashaDude Feb 8, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

I don't really care anymore.

Both Jane and Jeff's storys suck, in my eyes.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Straight up!

😢CreepypastaGal Feb 9, 2013 Writer


🙅‍♂️KashaDude Feb 9, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist


😢CreepypastaGal Feb 9, 2013 Writer

YU No Like Jeff OR Jane? D

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Now whatever could've given you that idea? Does that blow your mind? Welcome to humanity.


Comments On Summary Of Liquid Hate

Here are a few comments on 💢🐕MrAngryDog's "Summary Of Liquid Hate and how Jane Richardson is written as having way too many powers.

🤔SilentHero75 Jun 1, 2015

So, are Jane Richardson and Jane Arkansaw(Everlasting) the same person just with different last names?

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: No.

💢🐕MrAngryDog Jun 1, 2015 Professional General Artist

Everlasting is not the same Jane. She is a rip-off made by PastaStalker64, and the story is gone from the creepypasta wiki

🤔SilentHero75 Jun 1, 2015

Ah alright. I'm sorry for asking so many questions. I just want the true story of Jane the Killer, since I would like to add a bit of character background to the fanfiction. Also, how would you describe her personality?

💢🐕MrAngryDog Jun 1, 2015 Professional General Artist

well, she's very sweet to those she loves and protects, but can be very vicious and violent if crossed... we'll talk more tomorrow since I'm going to bed :3

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: She's a heartless killer that pretends innocent victims she rips up are Jeff as she kills them. As for being sweet and protective to loved ones, any monkey can have those qualities, but Jane's not capable of any kind of sympathetic human emotion. She has no conscience. Any "sweetness" is saccharin/sucralose, written in for her own self-glorification.

🤔SilentHero75 Jun 2, 2015

Hmm...I think I have an idea for her entrance. But would you say she would be hostile towards anyone associated with Jeff?

💢🐕MrAngryDog Jun 2, 2015 Professional General Artist

she's hostile to every bad guy she comes across... let's hear the entrance idea.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Not according to her letter to Jeff, the most famous Jane creepy pasta. She was worse than hostile to innocent victims and she admits it. And I've read comments that say it is Jane Richardson in the picture, not Jane Arkensaw.

😠The-Metal-Maniac Jul 12, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

The whole "Jane Everlasting" thing burn victim thing was a bit silly (Author probably meant well, but "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" and all that jazz), plus directly tying her origins into Jeff's origin story makes her seem a lot like the definition of a Mary Sue.

That said, my personal view is if Jane Everlasting (when done well, and there are those who've pulled that off) can be treated as a separate character from the original Jane (as in she exists in an alternate timeline/universe), then I don't really care if she was a burn victim or got her face clawed off by Freddy Krueger.

It's when the two of them are treated as the same person that creates headaches.

Jane is a common enough name, Arkensaw and Richardson are completely different surnames, so Jane Arkensaw's story could work as long as she isn't "Jane The (insert title here) but just one of many people Jeff victimized.

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: *Pfft*

💢🐕MrAngryDog Jul 12, 2013 Professional General Artist

and speaking of headaches, would you like an aspirin? ;) As time has passed on, Jane has started to stand as a stand-alone character now

😠The-Metal-Maniac Jul 12, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

Yeah, I've noticed that Jane has slowly started heading toward becoming a stand-alone character without any need to reference Jeff the Killer.

I also noticed that more of the Creepypasta fandom is slowly starting to accept her as a legitimate character and not "a genderbent Jeff/Mary Sue" (This also extends to her Everlasting counterpart, who for some reason seems to be popular among DA members who type in Spanish).

💢🐕MrAngryDog Jul 12, 2013 Professional General Artist

i love your icon btw ^_^ i'm also thinking of just listing her name on her driver's license as Jane "Everlasting" Richardson XD

🧝‍♀️Ocean Elf: Oh, wow, that could really get confusing.

Nothing will wipe out that Jane The Killer started out as a counter to Jeff, and therefore, a Mary Sue.

Jeff is a Gary Stu to start with anyway.

This makes Jane a Mary sue to a Gary Stu.

Over and out.


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