They ruined Star Wars with the sequels, baited the fans with the Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2, though not without unfairly firing Gina Carano for tweeting something truly anti-racist that Disney in their blundering woke idiocy took as racist.
Then they came out with the wretched so-called "Obi-Wan Kenobi" series in the spring and summer of 2022.
There used to be Star Wars, before the company still calling itself "Disney" took it over.
Now, it is widely renamed "Disney Star Wars" and that is no compliment.
A better title for the supposed "Obi" series should've been Reva's Rampage, No Hope.
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Red Dead Ranger says:
"The Kenobi fan film did more in minutes than this show did in hours."
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The brain-killing woke is so strong with this one that the writers commit a very serious gaff, and more.
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stephen watson says:
"This is how dumb the writers are. Obi wan asks leia how old she is lolol. Doesnt disney realise that she is lukes twin sister hahahhahah"
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Mayor Vaughn says:
"I loved the part where Elaria Sand knocked a stormtrooper practically unconscious with an open handed slap on his armored helmet.
The suckatude is strong with this one."
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DarthOil says:
"Let me guess.
Stormtrooper armor can stop a lightsaber cutting through. The blade hits the stormtrooper and bounces off. .
But a middle aged women with a open hand slap stuns a stormtrooper.
You can't make this up."
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As laughably ridiculous as that is, it is about the least thing Wokeney Wokas Film has put into a movie.
What Happens When You Hire Social 'Justice' Warriors
Disney Star Wars/Lucas Film will lie and say everything is great and their business is booming.
They wish. Wokeney Shill Media Disgrace
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SilverAxe13 says:
"This shill media just refuses to accept that a LOT of people dislike Disney Star Wars. Itâs driving them absolutely nuts."
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RJohan Herrenberg says:
R"Thanks for this, guys. I cannot understand all the love this train wreck is getting."
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RFelix Villefrance says:
R"I was actually shocked to my core when I discovered more than one person who liked that garbage of a show."
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RWS says:
"Nice to actually see some negative opinions of this series, most of the people I've seen talking about it on YouTube have been bigging it up and I'm like "Really? It's fđŁing terrible." It was charmless and boring, with a poor script; and that's without even mentioning the awful Reva arc."
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Stick around. A lot of us are sick of this crap, and utterly disgusted with Wokeney. From Rey to Reva to the blatant they put out, Disney is no longer Disney, but Wokeney.
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troxx_62 says:
"There are 2 types of people who watch this show, the ones like us, holding out a slight amount of hope, only for it to be crushed and rightfully criticizing its poor writing, direction and overall quality. Or the disney shills who call you a toxic racist misogynistic gatekeeper for stating a opinion or calling out the lore breaking decisions, how are we the toxic ones here."
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Gamemediafan 17 says:
"No matter how much you enforce the message and how much you pander, it's never enough. This is why the best artists ignore politics with their work. Or if they do include a political subtext, they actually work hard to make it meaningful and subtle."
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Traktorochskit says:
"I grew up with Star wars in the 80's. It seems that all the love and mystery from that era is gone now. This Disney/Star Wars is the end of all that magic."
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Ramon Serna says:
"Has a long time Star Wars fan I feel the originals were perfectly written. When something has been completed to a sufficient degree of satisfaction adding to it just dimish the quality of the work. That is why Otello doesnt need a sequel or Romeo and Juliet a precuel. The reason why Obi wan is not mentioned between the end of episode 3 and episode 4 is because he didnt do anything interesting in that time. He was already a wise Jedi Master so he didnt need more training and the whole point of him being there was to keep a low profile while the rebellion was formed. Disney had to artificially make Obi Wan incompetent in order to give him an arc and create fake crisis that honestly just diminish the story. Obi wan defeating Anakin and then later Vader " beating" him is poetic. It loses its appeal however f its revealed this characters fought each other every week."
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Eric Belisle says:
"The writing at Disney feels not only like disempowerment - and emasculation - of legacy characters, but also the transfer of their valor (initiative, action and responsibility) to other characters that don't own it. Stolen valor. They are completely smashing the hero's journey's narrative, almost as if they wanted to create a collectivist narrative of deconstructed , mediocre and pathetic heroes who have almost no volition and whose good decisions can't be their own."
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Freddie Stinson says:
"Yes with the recent dumpster fires of the shows Boba Fett and now Obi Wan I've lost about all the good faith that the Mandaloran had brought me."
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TherealWinston says:
"I must admit, I haven't watched any of the Live Action shows so far (ok, except of the first episode of Mandalorian), but what I have heard so far
Mandalorian gave me (a new) hope
Boba Fett let me question that
and Obi Wan destroyed it
Star Wars is dead"
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Xthegr8 Er says:
"D!sney, through their hubris and incompetence, never knew what they had in Star Wars.
It was like Star Wars was this amazing cake, and D!sney doesn't have a clue how to make cake, only the icing. So they've done nothing but make icing, and attempt to replace the icing over and over, and they literally have never touched the cake."
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Nully Emptier says:
"this is not really Star Wars... it's propaganda... waste of time and resources"
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littleKaiju says:
"This has been the only month so far, that felt like a year, with all this diversity and inclusion..."
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Exactly. June 2022 was like living in a giant chain letter telling you what to like, and bullying you as some kind of ist/phobe for not obeying it.
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Dragon Dude says:
"With the rainbow versions, I made a joke explanation about them.
Darth Vader enters the Emperor's Throne room flanked by his Stormtroopers and Boba Fett; all of them are rainbow coloured.
The Emperor speaks.
Emperor : Lord Vader, why are you and your men multicoloured?
Vader : (bristling with anger) The rebels set a paint-bomb trap and we walked right into it."
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*Chuckle*
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Art McCarthy says:
"When any company calls their "customers" names, well, they go out of business."
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Nonya Bisness says:
""Fans are beginning to get their way, we must prevent this!"
Uhm...yeah. Pretty sure many many people died to ensure our intertainment doesn't have to meet an arbitrary ideological treshold before people are allowed to enjoy it.
We do not want you to insert cringe charactes that replace the ones we love."
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Joshua Marsh
This current Disney trilogy production of "The Shills Awaken", "The Last White Male", and "Rise of the Gaslighters" is masterfully crafted! You can almost taste the hatred for the fanbase in each shitshow...
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Lol!
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Fuzzdog says:
"My expectations for Kenobi were low, but I'm almost impressed that Disney managed to screw up what should have been an absolute no brainer win. The Disney SW recipe seems to be "Write a dull show about dull original characters nobody cares about then slap a couple of fan favourite characters in the last episode so people freak out and forget how bad it was" and Kenobi has been no exception. Hayden did a good job with what he was given though, and it was nice to see him taking on the role again. I think my main takeaway from this series was that nobody in the Star Wars universe ever checks to make sure someone is dead."
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The Laughing Cavalier says:
"It's alright, I am sure Disney is working on a new series that will explore the early life of Jar Jar Binks and how he was the one who actually created Rey Palpatinewalker."
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Noctober says:
"Something tells me they are gonna ruin Ahsoka , Mandalorian and Cal next and I wouldnât be surprised at this point. đ"
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The Apex Fighter says:
This is sad beyond measurement. Disney is destroying entertainment."
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DistantKingdom says:
"it just feels intentional at this point. i just can't believe they can consistently drop the ball like this over and over and over again while sitting a top literally millions of dollars to hire any number of talented, competent writers. ppl will eat up the slop regardless tho so why bother"
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Eric Belisle says:
"The writing at Disney feels not only like disempowerment - and emasculation - of legacy characters, but also the transfer of their valor (initiative, action and responsibility) to other characters that don't own it. Stolen valor. They are completely smashing the hero's journey's narrative, almost as if they wanted to create a collectivist narrative of deconstructed , mediocre and pathetic heroes who have almost no volition and whose good decisions can't be their own."
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The Kenobi series and Wokeney Star Warped, cultural vandalism.
Wokeney and Wokas Film consistently fail the fans with their woke agenda, and they utterly butcher the characters and plot to get that done.
Wokeney and Wokas Film shame" people who tell them to stop putting identity politics into their content.
They load their content with identity politics, and troll the part of the fanbase who dislikes that. They want woke fans, they hate people who do not accept the crap they dish out.
The Mary Sue character Reva Sevander is part of that.
Reva Sevander is a female inquisitor from the Star Wars travesty known as the "Obi-Wan Kenobi" mini series. She is also intended to be the main character. Disney Star Wars/Lucas Film admitted that outright:
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"We are proud to welcome Moses Ingram to the Star Wars family and excited for Revaâs story to unfold."
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Did you get that? *REVA'S* story, not Ben Kenobi's.
Since when do new actors get such a molly coddling big welcome to a production?
This is all to sell woke propaganda disguised as entertainment and make a mascott out of Moses Ingram. A really egotistical for Disney Lucas Film to do.. And they then did the unthinkable, accusing the fanbase of racism pre-emptively, because they knew they had a Mary Sue dud character they made just for identity politics, but they knew most people would be smart enough to call it out for what it is, and dislike it.
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Brought Receipts says:
"Artistic nihilism is a great way to put it. I as a black man was repulsed by Reva. She has identical flaws as Kylo Ren except for now since sheâs black, the writers have a ready made shield for criticism: âYouâre racist if you donât like her.â There is absolutely nothing more sickening, depraved and repulsive than using my skin color as defense for their incompetence, ineptitude, nihilism and disdain for merit."
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Hamzah says:
"Remember when Lucasfilm and Hollywood were pushing everyone to like Lando Calrissian in 1980?
No, neither do I. Didn't have to, if you have to market a character to this extent, rather than let the audience decide, then you already admit you done a poor job."
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Here, here! Exactly!
ç°æ„œFennec says:
"People who actually care about the franchise donât give a hoot about diversity. If you write good characters, regardless of background, the audience will like them.
If your âlikable traitâ is skin color, doesnât that say more about the writersâ racial motivations than the audiencesâ?"
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Blueboi says:
"Just ignore Mace Windu, Lando and Moth Giddeon. Not to mention expanded universe characters like Quinlan Vos and Cere Junda. This isn't even mentioning other ethnicities represented in Star Wars. The fanbase doesn't have a racism problem, it has a Hollywood is more interested in diversity and representation then telling a good story problem. Disney will be the last people I let call out racism when they removed a black main character from Chinese posters and put a mask on black panther."
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NCEXNYC says:
"This is something I've never understood about these big franchises. They've got these rabid fanbases that spend tons of cash on toys, apparel, and other merchandize, yet they'll crap all over them by catering to a small vocal minority of SJW's."
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The truth will win! says:
"Mace windu and Lando didnât feel like they were put in for diversity sake. They felt like they belonged.
Reva feels like a D&I hire. Itâs obvious."
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LTNetjak says:
"Villains just need to be villains, not misunderstood people ready for redemption.
Then there's the bigotry in not letting any POC just be a villain."
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Malorm says:
"There are literally no words to adequately describe the insanity behind Lucasfilm since George sold it. You couldn't even fail this bad on purpose"
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Collector King says:
For the record:
- Star Wars has a massive global fanbase. It's not toxic, racist or hateful. In a fanbase this big it's inevitable that there will be some douchebags.
- Wanting Star Wars to be good is NOT toxic.
- I have a Millennium Falcon the size of a coffee table and Disney Lucasfilm has lost me because they chose to push personal agendas.
- No one gives a damn about the characters skin color or sexuality we want good characters not walking checklists.
- Calling your fans racist, bigots, sexist and every buzzword in the book is getting old and it's not a good counter to valid criticism.
- No it's not important they Reva has braids.
- If you say something and change "white" with "black", "guys" with "girls", "straight" with "gay" and it sounds racist, sexist ot phobic then the original was also racist, sexist or phonic.
- When you get low skilled and talentless hacks to do your things you end up with trash.
- These people are everything they claim to stand against.
- Gina Carano was fired over outrage Krystina Arielle was hired and defend despite being openly racist. The hypocrisy is off the charts.
- If you don't want me fine but I am taking my money with me. Let the Twitter lunatics you pander to pick up the tab. Good thing you can pay bills with Twitter likes.... Oooo wait you can't. A well. Better luck next time.
- Star Wars has ALWAYS had strong female characters but Disney Lucasfilm DELETED them when they made the EU non canon.
- Rey is a Mary Sue.
- Rose Tico is a human sack of potatoes.
I can go on but you get the point.
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Jaded One says:
"I cancelled my Disney plus when they fired Gina, and I have not regretted it one bit."
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gagalover2k10 says:
"What really disgusted me was Disney going after regular people on Twitter for voicing their opinion to the point where they had to delete their Twitter profile. Some of these poor people only had a handful of followers and a FUCKING corporation bullied them off the platform for not agreeing with them."
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Definitely! Here, here!
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Tinj 99 says:
"I too grew up with my dad introducing me to Star Wars at a young age, especially as the prequels were coming out. I really wanted to enjoy the show, I put my hatred for the sequels and Disney aside, especially after seeing the press releases with Ewan and Hayden involved. Reva being able to know about Vaderâs true identity is a slap in the face for any Star Wars fan, and Leia being wiser than a 50+ year old Jedi master makes me want to jump head first into the Sarlacc Pit! But donât worry guys, at least we get diverse characters instead of well written likeable ones!"
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Gunsmith Cat says:
"Star Wars has become so bad, watching it is literal self torture - to the point where criticising Star Wars fans can be called kink-shaming."
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Ray Galdier says:
"I am no longer a Star Wars fan thanks to Disney. I guess they got what they wanted: alienate the old fans to siphon money from the casual fans."
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I don't think "casual fan" describes the people who swallow everything just because the supposedly holy company still calling itself "Disney" puts it out. I am a casual fan of things, not part of any fandoms. And I don't put up with crap in my entertainment.
I prefer to call them "DisneyStar Wars addicts" or "Wokeney sheeple".
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Graham Smith says:
"Those who love and respect the Star Wars franchise should now understand the feelings of those who love and respect The Wheel of Time book series. Amazon have done to that, what Disney have done to this. Two of the biggest players are turning out utter dross, while expecting us to meekly sit back and accept it. As for the accusations of racism and genderism...what a cheap, and oh so tedious way to respond to the backlash. Disney and Amazon both use that tired old trope."
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Being stubbornly fixated on butchering Star Wars into a feminized mess with "The force is female" and so-called "diversity", Wokeney had backups just in case the audiences didn't love Reva, the force forbid... In addition, they completely trampled all over the real Star Wars original trilogy, making a mockery of it.
Baby Leia, supposedly Princess Leia at 10 years old, and Aunt Beru of all people.
Either a close second, or tying with Reva, Baby Leia dominated the movie as if she was the original main character from the start of the whole Star Wars story.
Princess Leia was one of the main characters in the original series, but she was a young adult, and she was a valuable and iconic character then. She wasn't given an exaggerated role for the woke purpose of "I am woman, hear me roar!" back then.
There should never have even been such thing as a baby Leia in the so-called "Obi-Wan Kenobi" series at all. She did not know Kenobi all that well in New Hope. No one did at first. So to make the two have this deep bond in the Kenobi series makes absolutely no sense, let alone making her the shiny little star of the show just behind Mary Sue Reva Sevander. The show was supposed to be about Ben Kenobi, but that was just a token title designed to reel fans in.
Ten-year-old Baby Leia will never be anything like Little Orphan Annie, Dorothy, Heidi, or Pippi. Those girls were characters in their own right. They did not piggyback on the contrived backstories of others to make names for themselves, and they especially weren't designed to perpetuate a woke agenda. Compared to them, Baby Leia is a sad knock-off and a farce, and she does a terrible disservice to the real Leia from the real Star Wars before Disney got their hands on it.
Wokeney Star Warped Wokas Film turned "Leia" into the most irritating child Mary Sue just in back of Lavender Chelsey!
Read at your own risk. It's a woke fanfic written before the term "woke" was in. It's about a hellchild who people are supposed to adore and pity because she's blind, even though she is a complete brat who is also unbelievable.
Bail Organa's frantic father thing was also designed to make Kenobi drop everything and chase after Baby Leia, because "It is not about the boy!" Kenobi was pressed to give "HER!" first priority.
The brat shouldn't have run away in the first place, and none of that would've happened.
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MakeDredd2 says:
Disney disrespected Luke Skywalker, of course theyâre gonna disrespect Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Disney even disrespected Leia by making her look like some cartoon character and not a real person.
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W _ 4 C A says:
Neither Luke nor Leia should have been super involved in this show. Cameos for fan appeasement, fine, whatever. Making one of them a key character in the story is just ignoring your own lore. I donât understand why Disney insists on digging themselves deeper and deeper into this hole of ignoring their own established lore.
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NYG5 says:
"Why did they have to involve the skywalker kids? Luke only knows him as an old hermit, and Leia only knows him from what Bail told her, that's why she pleads with him as "General Kenobi" instead of calling him Obi-Wan if they hung out together so much."
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The entire plot of young Leia watching spaceships land and take of, her best friend being a droid, and then her getting cought by the bad guys is an almost exact rehash of the plot in that one episode of the Bad Batch in which a twiâlek girl is getting caught by the bad guys. She was also the daughter of two of the leaders of her planet, she was also constantly running off and spying on ships, she was also having a droid best friend, and she was also caught/kidnapped by people working for the Empire.
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Arisu Cheddar says:
"I don't understand why showrunners don't realize, but a lot of sci-fi is rooted in character silence. Lil Leia was more tolerable the less she talked. Same with Reva. "
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Wouldbe Assasin says:
No excuse for getting Leia / Kenobi relationship all wrong . You are correctly pointing out all the stupid, disrespectful crap Disney continues to do. And they did wedge in the racialization with the Grand Inquisitor.
They absolutely want to destroy the franchise and I simply canât understand why.
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S Moore says:
"Look at Rei's "story arc" and you can see why theu think."the force will sort it out" she didn't need training, she didn't need a mentor, she wasxl just the "Bestest Evar!!!" Because she was a strong independent"type B". No real big shok and I'm sure when they get around to redoing the Original series, leia will be the force's savoir and Luke will be a bumbling farm boy who follows get around and says how Amazing she is!"
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Lisa Pop says:
"Don't forget that they totally ignored Luke Skywalker even though Obi-Wan was supposed to be guarding him from afar. Obi-Wan abandoned him to go save Leia, the bestests, smartest, most wonderful mini female ever."
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Dead Crusader says:
"I watched this with my Dad and Mom. We called Baby Leia "The Little Stupid.""
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TooLegit ToQuit says:
"Imagine a Jedi knight being bossed around by a ten year old. Yeah, that just doesn't work đ€·đ»ââïž"
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Even Officer Tala, who would've made a fine character in a series that was not designed to be fem-centric, was created for that purpose. There was no way Wokeney Wokas Film was going to have any male in any sort of truly helpful lead or purpose. They do not want "diversity", they want "GIRL POWER!"
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Animated Ink says:
"Disney really has a case of blatant misandry."
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Richard Parker says:
"Its interesting when you remember that the orginal reason why Disney baught Marvel and Lucas Fims was because they wanted to get more boy fans.
They always had girls in the bag with the Princess line up, but for years they struggle to get boys. I remember they had a couple faild attempts at trying to be more appealing to boys before they baught the two companies. So I don't understand why they're trying so hard to feminize Marvel & Star Wars and push out the same boys they originally wanted to begin with."
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Ocean Elf says:
"I refuse to acknowledge Baby Leia. This was some random clone child, a stand-in for Reva who failed. Wokeney Star Warped is a pile of trash."
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Even Owen and Beru weren't spared from having their characters butchered for the sake of the femforce in the Kenobi series.
They were not prepared in New Hope when their home was destroyed. So it makes no sense that they would've been and that it was Beru who took charge of getting out of danger from attack in the Kenobi series. This put her in third place for supposed strong female character that everyone was supposed to think was cool, especially since she was in the original movie. The knock-off Beru was painful for at least one viewer.
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Agent VENN7eance says:
"Aunt Beru had blue eyes... The original Aunt Beru was the spitting image of my dear grandmother, and so I had a particular fondness of her in A New Hope and seeing that character in Obi Wan has just been a catalyst of all the things I hate about Disney Star Wars."
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JohnFourtyTwo says:
"Auntie Beru definitely wears the pants in this family and was not the quiet little mouse she was in the prequels or original trilogy. I thought for a second she was going start talking about contacting other Rebel cells or something when she started getting the guns out of hiding like one of these "end of the world preppers" hiding guns in the ground all over their property. There was no need to hide the guns, there was no ban on guns on Tatooine or most any other planet. Everyone has a gun of some sort like we do watches, cellphones, etc."
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It was all to amp up the supposedly strong female characters by making them look unbelievably resourceful, powerful, smart, admirable and deep, while making everyone else look incredibly stupid.
Then Wokeney, Wokas Film thinks everyone should accept being spoonfed this garbage if enough pointless nustalgic scenes are thrown in to sweeten the blue pill.
No. Tossing some classic characters into a lame backstory that just isn't necessary, interesting, or even remotely good, pandering to the woke mob, doesn't cut the mustard.
It just brings about ruination for the classic characters, and the whole franchise.
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GeneTheMachine says:
"When they tried to make Aunt Beru look tough when she's taking charge in ep 6, all that did was made me believe on why they were incinerated by the Stormtroopers in A New Hope."
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In the so-called Obi-Wan Kenobi series, Wokeney/Wocas Film just made Yoda and Ben responsible indirectly for the destruction of the planet Alderaan and anything else Anakin/Vader did, by putting in some ridiculous confrontation in the Kenobi series that ended with Ben having the chance to stop Vader and he just didn't.
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rahn45 says:
"Hey Obi Wan, know that mistake you did? Letting Vader live? Do you wanna... you know correct that mistake? Avenge your friends? Rid the galaxy of a great evil? No?
Hey Vader. Do you want to check to make sure the person you hate the most in the galaxy is dead? No? Not even going to use the force to check? Just gonna walk away are you? Okay then."
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Joseph Wong says:
"By not killing Vader (you know, the most powerful military general of the empire) when he had a chance, Obi-wan literally allowed more billions of people to be genocided in the next 9 years.
Thatâs why this reunion between Vader and Obi-wan (or this show as a whole) should be nonexistent. It breaks canon in every way shape or form."
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Dave Blackman says:
"Vader in episode 3: heâs getting away? Meh itâs okay. Iâll just watch this fire.
Vader in episode 4: OMG HE GOT AWAY! NOO! YOU FAILED. Oh wait youâre tracking him? Oh ok youâre good.
Just likeâŠwhat is this writing???"
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Sai Waqa says:
"Lets look at this entire thing here.
- Yoda tells Obi-wan to live in solitude and look after luke while also training to gain to commune with Qui-Gon. (P.S Qui-Gon gained immortality, but wasn't strong enough to survive a stab wound from a lightsaber lol)
- Inquisitors are on Tatooine, literally threatens Owen and his family, and Obi-wan leaves Tatooine to save an abducted Leia.
- 4 episodes later, Obi-wan hands over the communication device to a fake Jedi and his lightsaber, and the fake Jedi loses the device only for Reva to discover the truth about Luke.
- Reva learns instant transmission after eating a senzu bean to heal the stab wound right through her chest, wrapped it up in a jumper and teleports to Tatooine, to raid the farm and kill luke out of vengeance against Vader (Vader doesn't even know he has children but let's skip that shall we) I mean surely she would understand why they are being protected because luke will face his father but again, let's skip that.
- Reva captures luke, could have killed him and Obi-wan the failure was nowhere to be found.
Conclusion: Obi-wan Kenobi is the whole reason why Luke was ever in danger... His one sole purpose in life to protect luke and he failed miserably - in fact became the reason why luke faced any danger at all. Remove this 6 part series, and order and sense return to the star wars world and story."
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Chuck Keyworth says:
"Kenobi was DOA. They canât admit that it just sucks because much like the story; the characters are disposable."
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Se05239 says:
"The saddest part is that we all knew this shit would happen. Disney's devoid of creativity, there's only franchise ruination and wokeness."
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LTNetjak says:
"As far as I care, Obi-Wan lived a quiet, uneventful life up until meeting Luke after the Tusken attack."
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PeasantWizard says:
"I said this elsewhere, but I feel like the grand plan is for Disney to remake the OT at some point and for Reva to be a character in their Godforsaken Remake...đ"
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GRAY FOX says:
"They are setting up for the remake of 'A New Hope' with their spin on it. Leia will be the one in the X-Wing blowing up the Death Star while Luke is cheerleading from the side."
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Lady Ombre says:
"Agree think their ultimate goal is to get rid of anyone who won't allow them to tell their agenda.
Easier to believe this was just another nightmare for Obi-wan, which unfortunately the audience were trapped in."
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Exactly!
Rien Jen comments on a video:
"As a long time female SW fan...thank you. You took the words right out of my mouth. It is SO patronizing to see that the only way these shows know how to make a female character strong is to knock the male character down. I rolled my eyes when Beru "takes charge," in part because her plan is wrong (running away is the best course of action against a Sith), secondly that she magically knows when Reva will attack, and lastly, that Owen--who has always been shown to be the more authority figure in that house--has a deer in headlights look on his face. Seriously? I like that he fought Reva despite his crappy odds but there was no need to make him look like a confused idiot."
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I'm not keen at all on backstories after the start of a series has already been established, I like the first movie in a series to be the start, and have things move on from there, leaving backstory development religated to fanfiction. So I don't even like the prequels. There was enough explanation about the past in New Hope itself to suffice, in my opinion, and they got a few things mucked up. But even they weren't made to spread woke propaganda.
The Kenobi series was. It was Wokeney deliberately making a contrived backstory to unnecessarily "fill a gap" between the prequels and the original movie, doing the affirmative action thing, then bashing the fans and taking their money.
That's right, both the red pill and the blue checkmarks get completely rejected from yours truly. They are political sections of meme subculture. None of that crap will get checked or swallowed here.
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Wokeney continues with:
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"If anyone intends to make her feel in any way unwelcome, we have only one thing to say: we resist."
There it is again, that stupid "RESIST!" leftist meme.
I have something to say right back, I can 'resist' too, and I will never give Wokeney any of my hard-earned money as long as they keep premptively bullying their own fanbase this way.
Wokeney: "There are more than 20 million sentient species in the Star Wars galaxy, donât choose to be a racist,"
Ocean: Well aren't you the trollish lot, judging everybody as racist even before your crappy show went up... You are high on your own woke stink and you've completely lost your moral cumpus.
Of course there are different types of people and creatures, it wouldn't be a setting without. It's no different from any other sifi/fantasy story that way. Don't kid yourselves. You really aren't special, except in the worst meaning of the word.
And you won't find a single racist comment from people who dislike Wokeney Star Warped on this page. I found no such comments on all the Youtube videos concerning this hot mess.
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@StarDustInSp403 posted a picture with the caption:
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"Funny, we are asking the same thing."
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@Nogreensocks says:
"If they spent half as much time as you do trying to gaslight the entire galaxy, they might have had a halfway decent show."
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@Rookie_425 says:
"Oh Golly, Star Wars fans, are you ready to get called racist again because you dared to point out that your favorite franchise already had a wide range of diversity and that Disney's preemptive campaign to inoculate against any potential genuine criticism is transparent as f**k? We have characters from Legends that we love. We have influential cast from the OT that we love. We even have characters from the Disney era that we love, and ones that we don't. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin."
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@HappyMantShrimp sums up the company's agenda well:
""No one cares about this new show, let's make the fans fight over racism!""
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@Chaotickeyblade says:
"They didn't stand up for Gina Carano and they didn't stand up for John Boyega, In fact they actively tried to censor John Boyega that way the movie could be played in China."
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M Carpenter says:
"This isnât Star WarsâŠâŠthe moment Kennedy came out for a photo op with a shirt on that said âThe Force is Femaleâ I knew we were in for it. Look how she destroyed our charactersâŠâŠ.New Rey needs zero training, make Han Solo a dead beat dad, Hans and leiaâs son looked and acted like a deranged mental patient, Leia had Superman powers all along, Luke was treated like an old homeless vagrant, they stole the Skywalker redemption story and gave it to a women palpatine.Funny thing is they canceled the best new female character Gina Carano and give us this as strong female representation? đđđđ why not make this inquisitor a cool looking alien? Are we going to find out this female inquisitor is Vaders side piece? đ she did know he was Anakinđłđł and certainly has a jones against Obi Wan."
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audience2
"The new character has to humiliate and destroy the legacy of the beloved male character."
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Drum Lessons says:
"George Lucas: "Anakathleen, I'm sorry... for everything."
Darth Kennedous: "I'm not your failure George. You didn't kill Star Wars. I did!"
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Emilio Martinez says:
"Obi-Wan Kenobi: A canon-breaking Disney+ Star Wars cash grabbing "story"
Starring the laziest written villain, stereotypical angry black woman, who don't need no man, making plans that are either complete reaches in logic, or are just pulled straight out of her ass, that gets "redeemed" by the end of the story.
A story where a youngling survived Operation Knight fall, got stabbed by Lord Vader, become an Imperial Inquisitor, sneak attacked the Grand Inquisitor, a former Jedi Temple Guard who's species is known for their hypersensitive hearing, and at minimum, had the rank of a Jedi Knight. After hilariously losing to Darth Vader, getting stabbed AGAIN, she finds the idiotic holo-message of Bail mentioning Owen and "The Children", possibly knowing who they truly are, despite only a handful of people even knowing. Reeeva heading to Tattooine to kill Luke for some fđŁing reason, Beru not making any goddamn sense, shenanigans ensue, resulting in 3rd Sista standing over an innocent child who did duck-all in this show, wanting to kill him apparently to avenge her slain family, even though, she seemed to be A-okay working with the people who keep their corpses like taxidermy trophies. But all is forgiven, because she "SaVeD" Luke, via not killing him. Darth Reva then cried to Obi-Wan, viewing herself as a failure and no better than Darth Vader, then Kenobi spat in the face of anyone with an iota of moral fiber and an IQ above negative one hundred by saying she didn't fail her family, and she's nothing like Darth Vader. The whole Leia-knowing-Obi-wan-Kenobi plot hole is only slapped with a sticker saying "No one must know, or it could endanger us both".
To those who say Star Wars is dead, you're wrong.
Star Wars was brutally raped and killed, resurrected with Sith Alchemy, beaten within an inch of it's undead life, and mutilated beyond recognition.
Kathleen Kennedy can go fđŁ herself with Rey and Reva's lightsaber for all I care.
Dave, I'm sorry, but unless I hear nothing but good things about the Ahsoka series, I will not watch it, even at gunpoint."
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I agree, except that I will say that Star Wars is not only dead, but it is being parasitised even after its death. What is coming out of Wokeney Wokas Film is not Star Wars, but a fraud that should be known as Star Warped.
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Monique (she calls herself Moses) Ingram, who played Reva, shared troll comments she supposedly got right after Lucas Film told her to expect racism. How convenient.
I wouldn't put it past their own gaggle of sycophants (not so affectionately known as "flying monkeys" to pull media stunts and hoaxes on social media as a means to bully and coerce fans into shutting up before they can even get to criticise what is legitimately wrong with the series..
'Look out Moses, *gong* There will be racists... *scary music* *Cuckoo sound and drum crash* Well look at what just crawled out of the woodwork, - racist commenters! What perfect timing, wouldn't you say!?
Let's mangle this contrived crap. I don't believe for a second these were actual commenters. I believe this was all staged, and the actors bought right into it.
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Flying Monkey1: "Your days are numbered,"
Ocean: Oh please, what are you gonna do, blast her with a light saber burn? Here, have a banana. That should shut you up for a while.
*Watches in bemusement as stupid flying monkey tries to activate the banana as if it was a light saber* What an idiot.
Flying Monkey2: "You are not the first n**** in Star Wars fool,"
Ocean: Because every race-card player who trolls people must absolutely stick that nasty 'n' word in somewhere. Here, fool, have a banana. Try not to stick it into the wrong orifice. You could poke your eye out or something. On second thought, that would be a good idea. Whatever you do, shut up, crawl back under your rock in Stupidland, and never show yourself again.
Flying Monkey3: "You suck loser, You're a diversity hire and you won't be remembered for this acting role."
Ocean: That reminds me so much of this guy who wrote email impersonation hoaxes against himself, creating a fantasy world inwhich he was victim supreme. Could these flying monkeys possiblly go any lower? Yeah, monkey3, you suck same as that guy. Take your banana and get lost...
Flying Monkey4: ""Ayo Kenobi, you ain't finna run forever white boy. Get back here." -Third Sister, Obi-Wan Kenobi,"
Ocean: You're a classic case of race-card playing causing massive brain-cell death. In case you didn't get the memo, hoaxer, Star Wars is about space wizards, not about whos gots whats color skins. *twirls finger at temple* Get lost, stupid!
Flying Monkey4: "You have now been converted into Saint George of Floydium of Star Wars, are you happy,"
Ocean: Oh please! Who loaded your bananas with so much 'floydium'? You've really gone off your chump. ST. George was a legendary figure who slew dragons, not death stars and sith lords.
Flying Monkey4: "How the f**k does an alien know ebonics?"
Ocean: Wait, you're saying that first line of yours was actually Reva? Just FYI I pretty much consider both ebonics and redneck to be so similar that they are almost interchangeable. So take that, idiot! I'd have to actually watch the series to see if your claim is true, which I doubt, but I'm not that curious.
Monique Ingram: "Thereâs nothing anybody can do about this,"
Ocean: Yes there is. Call Disney out for their gross mismanagement of not just the movie, but their agenda. Ignore troll messages.
Instead, you played right into Wokeney's hands andfell for this bullcrap, hook, line, and sinker.
Monique Ingram: "Thereâs nothing anybody can do to stop this hate. I question my purpose in even being here in front of you saying that this is happening. I donât really know."
Ocean: Ever heard of hate crime hoaxes? Set-ups? Ever thought Wokeney picked you for this and you fell, hard!
No, it's just easier to slip into the victim role and get a little more fame. Not like the nobodies who aren't part of the corrupt identity politics-ridden film industry.
Monique Ingram: "The thing that bothers me is this feeling inside of myself, that no one has told me, but this feeling that I have to shut up and take it, that I have to grin and bear it. And Iâm not built like that. So, I wanted to come on and say thank you to the people who show up for me in the comments and the places that Iâm not going to put myself. And to the rest of yâall, yâall weird."
Ocean: You think being made to feel uncomfortable is something that makes you different from everyone else? Think again. If Wokeney didn't make such a huge deal of your skin color, none of this would've happened. Nobody who matters, gives a flying hot damn what you look like or what your race is. What we really hate is Wokeney using you to perpetuate a woke agenda when they're supposed to be providing entertainment. What we hate is how they gaslight entire fanbases just to avoid getting possible genuine negative reactions that have nothing to do with race. They see racism where it doesn't exist, and where it doesn't exist, they fabricate it.
Monique Ingram: "It was something that Lucasfilm actually got in front of, and said: "This is a thing that, unfortunately, likely will happen. But we are here to help you; you can let us know when it happens,"
Ocean: And then it "happened" immediately. And you did not suspect something hinky going on. That's sad. Wokeney is desperate enough to steamroll over an entire fanbase because to them, bad politics is far more important than a good, wholesome, entertaining story.
Monique Ingram: "the franchise and Obi-Wan Kenobi Deborah Chow put
proper systems in place so I feel safe as we do the work."
Ocean: Yeah, setting you up, then making a big show of coddling you. "Look at us, we care so much! It's all for the sake of DIVERSITY!"
Crap.
It should be about producing honest to goodness entertainment...!
Monique Ingram: "Of course there are always pockets of hate,"
Ocean: *Rolling eyes* Wow wow wow, what a clever little soundbite 'pockets of hate' as there are 'pockets' of insert every other kind of human traits in existance. This time, your 'pocket' was created by Wokeney itself.
Monique Ingram: "But I have no problem with the block button.'
Ocean: Well, goody gumdrops for you. You should've simply used it instead of making such a big deal over stupid comments that were more than likely planted by Wokeney's flying monkeys to stir up trouble
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Naida Deschesne says:
"Its like tearing down white men's statues. Instead, they should just "do something" to warrant a statue to honor your blk women and men. Same with movies, dont change the characters, write a whole new story with your characters for us to fall in love with. It dont take a rocket scientist to figure this out. But when you're motivated with jealousy and hatred, you get statues and characters destroyed. đđ"
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In the end, "Obi-Wan Kenobi" was exactly what was expected with Reva being such a heroic Mary Sue that she survived and redeemed herself. There was no way Wokeney was going to kill her off.
They completely flattened Leia as well, setting her up as a cold-hearted wench for the original. They made her far too close with Kenobi in the Kenobi series, which really messes up "A New Hope". She and Ben were practically strangers in the first original movie.
But they were using Leia as a fly-trap to hook the under-age audience, plus a cute sort of backup should Reva disappoint the audience as a "strong female".
I will not acknowledge this kiddy version of Leia as Leia. She's just some weird clone shoe-horned in because Wokeney felt the need to ruin two iconic characters in what amounts to a sad SW parody.
They tossed in a bunch of useless nustelgia and other nonsense to cap it all off.
It was a collossal mess, all for the sake of ramming identity politics down our throats.
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ViperChief117 says:
"Rather sad that the mainstream news media canât just accept the fact that the fans are right and that this series along with Disneyâs Star Wars is nothing more than pure trash. Lol"
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Ryan says:
"I'm not blind to the crap im being served and I decided long ago to not be some corporate shill. Keep it up y'all"
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Amy Stahl says:
"I too can go on at length about the destruction of fanbases and how we, the fans, are being bullied to accept it. I think this video was very articulate and you expressed everything I feel inside. I'm a 48-year old woman and when Star Wars came out in 1977 I was three years and a half years old. I immediately fell in love with it. I still have my action figures from my childhood along with new figures of the OT, the Prequels, and the original EU. I even have almost all of the original EU books and comics. Never in all my years of Star Wars, DC Comics, Ghostbusters, He-Man, She-Ra or any other of my fanbases have I felt shunned by men or felt that I as a person could not see myself. The narrative that being force fed to us by companies and the media is disgusting. There have been glimmers of hope with properties like Ghostbusters and Top Gun. The silent fans that have been leaving the franchises that have been destroyed are letting their voices be heard with their wallets by supporting these quality films."
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Bethesda's Lore Master says:
"Can't expect much from them. Legacy media is dying, taking money or owned from these huge corporations. YouTubers are making them less and less relevant and their agenda is failing with every new voice breaking through"
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Petrie W says:
"in my experience the only response you need to destroy anyone who tries to label you this way is "Prove it, or i demand an apology"
Never be afraid of labels, just make the people who use them have to explain themselves. Stupidity always exposes itself if you keep them talking long enough."
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Kathleen Kennedy did some pathetic back-peddling in reaction to her stupid series bombing.
Get this. She claimed she would "a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mof5X4BFUqY">listen to SW fans Yeah, right!
She is not interested in listening to real SW fans and giving them what they want.
If she did, she would admit she screwed SW over from day 1, get out of the company, and take her woke cronies with her.
Then Wokas film could declare every faux SW that was put out since her arrival as not canon, having the saga end with ROTJ.
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Vered Wol says:
"There's no reason for the show to continue, they distorted the canon and clumsily tied it with the original trilogy. There's nothing there to tell."
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Cortanis001
"Saying she'll listen to fans is the equivalency of having a "suggestions" box or the "complaints" department box stationed right above a paper shredder. The suggestion that they care in any way about what anyone besides themselves think is just insulting at this point."
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Nikai says:
"Kathleen: We will listen to the fans.
Fans: retire...
Kathleen: You people are sexists!"
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Zachary Taylor says:
"When, in the first episode, Bail Organa said it wasn't about Luke, I was done. "It's not about Luke," told me all I needed to know. I watched the first episode but no more. I didn't start watching because I wanted to see three identical scenes of Obi-Wan slicing meat. I wanted to see badass Obi-Wan. Nope."
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M H says:
"Disney abuses it's fan base, screams at them, and then asks if they want a puppy. There will never be a puppy."
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Jamie Collins says:
6 episodes of irrepairable damage to the franchise as a whole. I'll stick to legends thank you very much. The holiday special is much better entertainment than this swill.
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Rikukey2 says:
"If they want to do a season 2 they could say it was Obi-Wan having a Knightmare and these 6 episodes were just a dream :]"
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Ferox Deus says:
"If season two were to happen, they could fix the events of season one by starting out with Obi-Wan coming out of a force vision that show season one was just a possible future if Obi-Wan cuts himself off from the force.
But then again, it is Disney and Kathleen Kennedy, so yeah, they'd never do that."
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better late than never says:
"'I'll respect the characters"
"I'll listen to the fans'
Foul me once..."
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Mark IA Hendrix says:
"If she TRULY cared what fans thought... Kathleen would have had to make a LOT of changes. Too many. Then she wouldn't be able to cram "The Message" down our throats at every opportunity. So this is just another way to deflect another failure away from them, and blame it's dismal ratings on bigoted fans. Instead of their atrocious story line."
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Az's Wonky Eyebrow says:
"Waaaay too late for that, she just needs to fall on her sword. But the franchise is beyond repair anyways so who really cares any more, I was done with SW for a few years."
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viper 2.0 says:
"hitting facts Ryan damn lol we don't want any more star wars if they going to do another one have all diffent characters where they can make up their own story, not us old characters anymore where they keep missing up their story smh"
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Hans Kneesun says:
"1. Disney dumps all over the canon and OT characters.
2. Audiences react negatively
3. Kathleen Kennedy releases a statement trying to convince us that her leadership and content is 100% not shite.
This is Star Wars we're talking about not amateur hour, I don't want a stagehand to come out after the show and explain to me what I just saw.. I'm not aware of any other franchise that relies so heavily on statements by executives to explain epic ineptitude, if the audience didn't understand what you were attempting that's on the directors, writers and execs."
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Mister Sparkles says:
"Obi Wan is the best thing to happen to Star Wars since Disney bought it- it's so flagrantly disrespectful and dismissive of/to the lore that it's killed the hope in the leftover Star Wars fans. The only fans left now aren't even Star Wars fans."
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neocomp92 says:
"Her definition of a "fan" is quite easy to achieve: Just kiss her behind.
Frankly, George Lucas might as well be actually dead if his silence about this compost heap is anything to go by. And yet people still wait on him and his "successors" like those people in Monty Python waiting for the Messiah."
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deco2gogo says:
"There is no good reason why Kathleen Kennedy still has a job.
She has utterly decimated the once popular and lucrative Star Wars franchise, and she did it on purpose - because of her insane woke mind virus. She has methodically sabotaged and degraded every single main white male character. Han was turned into a deadbeat dad, murdered by his own son. Luke suffered an even worse fate - becoming an embittered, resentful old man who lost his faith in the Force. And now Obi Wan has become a cowardly parody of himself, who has to be supervised by the ultra precocious 10-year-old Leia.
Kathleen Kennedy's destruction of Star Wars is now complete."
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Jaden Korr says:
"I know how to describe Star Wars - itâs gone. That may sound harsh, but itâs still true.
Disney has successfully gathered in a fandom that either doesnât know what Han-Luke-Leia meant/did for so many years. Or a fandom that understood that, but is willing to throw continuity into the đ in order to pretend some isolated, feel-good moments are actually the icons as they remembered them, but knowing they all lead right back to the sequels. Obi Wan Kenobi is simply the most recent example of an icon deconstructed to rewrite history & prop up new characters.
You get what you pay for, and if you keep paying for it, you get more of it.
Meanwhile the Expanded Universe continues to age like fine wine đ·. You can find me there."
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Star Warped Merchandise In The Toilet
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jesse brent says:
"The greatest metric to see how people generally feel about Star Wars is the toy sales keep dropping since the sequels"
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EchoEchoEcho says:
"I was a collector from 1977 until The last Jedi. I have often thought about going back, but the way the actors talk about people they dont agree with, the ugliness that comes out of Lucasfilm, and the crazy prices on the figures from Hasbro. No way. Never again. I switched to Transformers but the quality has gone so down hill in just 5 years in many ways, and the prices are leaving me in the dust. 25 bucks for a small figure is just beyond me.
The worst part of all is how my one time hero Luke Skywalker / Mark Hamill has turned into a bitter, CREEPY AF, old man that sits on Twitter all day raging at half the country.
I never want to see a figure in his likeness again. Also I won't buy anything with the "Disney" icon on it. I don't fund groomers."
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I don't blame you! He has gone dark, just like the rest.
And he got
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Blank Adams says:
"To make this situation even more stark... George Lucas was the first ever movie director to take licensing fees for every action figure sold from his movies. That's what really lead to the action figure market. No one expected Star Wars figures to be so wanted. To be at a point where people just don't care? That shows how far Star Wars has fallen."
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Neil Price says:
"The collectors, as well as long time fans with an obsessive merchandise habit, are what kept Star Wars profitable for decades and it's why Disney wanted it. Woke Lucasfilm under Kathleen Kennedy and Woke Disney have completely destroyed that cash cow. I have heard that Marvel merch has been dropping a little in sales as well after MCU Phase 4 began."
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The Sentinel says:
"Collectors donât wanna buy this Disney Star Wars garbage. And now hasbro is just recovering at retail and they expect collectors to pay over $500 for a riva light saber? GTFOđ€Łđ€Ł"
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Herald of War says:
"If they bothered to spend money and hired people of talent and imagination to create and write a interesting story with unique characters for Star Wars they would have a hard time keeping stock in, but no ... they are not interested in story or characters or even making money or merchandise when they have twitter likes and a good ESG score."
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The_Dead_Man says:
"Yep, been seeing this trending for a while. Even sold off most of my OT Star Wars merch (never bought any Disney Star Wars). The interest just isn't there anymore and it's hard to sell anything on eBay. Star Wars really is devalued as a brand now."
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Ensign 'Redshirt' Ricky says:
"These merch companies need better management as well. I am surprised it is not all crowdfunded to see if there is *any* interest before even starting."
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DY Lives says:
"Hasbrolabs is Hasbro telling you how little faith they have in the market.
Back then, stuff just came out and people bought it.
People were literally hunting the stuff.
Now with Disney burning it into the ground, they have to crowdfund it just to see if there's people interested in it."
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Rocco Siffredi says:
"People refuse to acknowledge that merchandise is the true mark of whether or not Star Wars is working.
I once heard that the merch/toy sales from Star Wars was 4 to 1 to box office revenue.
Well, when George Lucas ran it..."
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Wokeney put out more Star Warped toys. The hype won't save them.
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CaliAnon says:
"I love the idea that we're racist or sexist when we don't like shitty characters. Nobody complains about Leia, Mace, Mon Mothma, Moff Gideon, Lando, etc, why? Because they're good characters, nobody cares what color or gender they are. Hand me crappy characters and I'll complain. White, black, purple or pink."
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Javier Ramirez says:
"No sequel trilogy figures? No MaRey Sue Palpatine? Gee, I wonder why? Oh that's right, because fans want good characters and great stories, not crap. Also, not liking a character doesn't make you racist. Disney knows their products are crap and want to guilt you into watching them. No, people aren't falling for it anymore. If you don't like a crappy character, it means you have a pretty decent opinion. Racism has nothing to do with it."
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daz636 says:
"Mandalorian started me collecting 3.75" star wars figures for the first time since my 1980's childhood.
Then they fired gina carano..
Saved me thousands of pounds!"
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Gojirastar5477 says:
" Back in the day I wouldâve been excited and bought some of those detailed OT, PT and animated series Star Wars action figures. But, after the repeated âtoxic fanâ attacks by Disney/Lucasfilm theyâre a pass. I donât like supporting a company that hates itâs paying customers (i.e. the fans)."
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Vezner says:
"They will not be getting my money for the woke crap. Classic stuff? Hell yes."
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Phaota says:
"It saddens me to think that, years ago, I would have been ecstatic at seeing all the new SW figures coming out, but now I couldn't care less. Sure, some look pretty good, but I know that the quality won't be anywhere near as good as those released back in the 2000s before Disney took over. What's dumb is that Disney thinks they can entice us old collector's with the same stuff all over again. I have all of the 70s up to the early 2010s figures, before the production quality and detailing took a nose dive and the Hungry Mouse got its hands on the franchise."
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Cortanis001 says:
"The sad part is that they've killed all of my enthusiasm for the IP that I didn't even care about any of the toys at all. I thought that maybe I'd like some of the Clone Wars stuff at least, but I just couldn't care anymore."
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Justin Gregory says:
"The Star Wars section at my Target store is less than four feet wide now. Growing up and even when TFA came out the Star Wars section took up half the aisle. Shame on what has happened."
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Mantelar says:
"Iâve got five kids. My father passed Star Wars on to me. Iâve done no such thing with my children. I havenât discouraged it, but havenât endorsed it, either.
To my surprise, none of them have showed any interest in it. I thought for sure it was inevitable on account of classmates. But it never happened. None of the kids my kids go to school with, across five grades, is much of a fan it seems.
I see no merch at bus stops or sport matches. No talk of it during sleep overs or at the park.
Disney has destroyed what was once a generational cash cow."
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Bucketus, Lord of Buckets says:
"Toy makers: "only the pre-disney stuff is selling, we should just stick to that"
Disney: "that's a great idea! We should kill everything SW we didn't make!"
Going to see the new Star Wars toys is like having to go to the morgue to identify a body in a bus crash. Only to find out that everyone on the bus who was ended were all your friends and you're the one who ends up identifying them all"
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Who wants to buy stuff that is associated with a propaganda mill that insults its customers and still expects everyone to buy their stuff?
Like I said on my page about Reeeeeeeeeeeeva, we're not stupid, and we won't pay people who abuse us and kill the things we love.
Secularis says:
"The scenes with Kenobi brooding stoically in the desert cave was a very meta moment for me as a SW fan. In that moment, I felt like I was Obi Wan, that being a fan forced into exile in my own fanbase that's been hijacked by idealouges and charlatans that can only make derivations of other derivations of something mostly forgotten. My love for star wars has deeply faded and now I sit and reflect with others about the glory days long past and how we failed to properly gate-keep our hobby. Those scenes in the first episode were almost surreal to me, especially juxtaposed against the prequel roll at the start of the episode. Ewan was fantastic as we knew he would be. And then the moment in ruined by the mouse's yass queen antics and a revered jedi master being emasculated by a 10 year old. It's all so tiresome."
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tragos says:
"I cannot fathom why some people, STAR WARS FANS, really, unironically believe this episode to be the âbestest episode evarâ. It seems to me that the fans just disabled their ability to think critically for this show. It absolutely baffles me, because Star Wars fans are usually very much critical and negative over the content that Disney shits out. Even the stuff that I personally believe to be really good (The Bad Batch). Here, everyone seems to have turned into a brainless consumer, whose brain only activates when he sees a familiar thing or Vader doing some evil and powerful stuff. I donât know. I just canât see why people say this show is good or âthe best Star Wars in a long timeâ or something to that effect. I would very much like to see something positive here, to enjoy this show. But I canât. And it is very sad indeed."
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Ianes Grécia says:
"WE DONT WANT IT! Dont need to destroy even more the franchise"
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WARBORN says:
"'We don't demand perfection....We demand a basic level of competence' ...That is one of the most salient statements I have heard concerning how awful Disney as handled the SW franchise. Sadly...they have failed so many times to deliver even a modicum of competence...many of the fans (myself included) are at the point where we have had enough. There is only so long you can piss down someone's back and tell them its raining...Disney seem to have missed that memo. The Obi Wan show is a new high in low for SW and that says a LOT considering how abysmal some of their other failures have been."
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JohnFourtyTwo says:
"Instead of getting mad, I'm beyond that with Disney Star Wars, I just laughed because it's nothing but a joke now.
- I laughed again at Obi-Wan giving Leia to someone else to protect her.
- I laughed at Kenobi in his ship being chased by Vader in the Devastator like OJ in his white Bronco or the Rebels by the First Order in TLJ.
- I laughed at the Ring doorbell burglar alarm the Lars have on their farm that sounded when Reva arrived. Checkout the Ring doorbell commercials, they're hilarious or at least more so than this show.
- I laughed at Obi-Wan having a Rey "coming to Jesus" moment with all the rock-lifting and throwing (oh yes, the Relos and blue pills were blowing multiple loads with these scenes).
- I laughed when Obi-Wan's lightsaber couldn't cut through Vader's chest but had no problem cutting off half his helmet. I will have to say Rebels did this scene much better when it was Ahsoka and Vader fighting, you actually felt like you were watching a compelling story unfold and not random overhead shots and lightsaber flourishes with meaningless dialog.
There are many more things to laugh about than to cheer for. Thankfully Luke didn't see Reva's lightsaber. Also, how did Reva's lightsaber get repaired? Didn't Vader cut it in half in the previous episode?
They totally wasted several opportunities in six episodes to explain anything that's happened in the last ten years. The Emperor and Qui-Gon were only there for nostalgia, they too weren't needed in this episode in the capacity they were portrayed, I was expecting much more from them and everyone else but we were fed nostalgia nuggets and memberberries instead.
We finally see Luke who's a pathetic shell.
The cinematography was awful as well. Enough of the cinéma vérité (shaky-cam) nonsense. The spaceship sequence was very amateurish and immediately distracted me instead of awing me. There's more to filming a Star Destroyer than just shooting it, you have to find the right angle. The profile shot and changing directions shots took away any symbol of power they had.
I thought we were going to get some real Star Wars music for a second or two on Vader's bridge but we got teased instead with more of the same lackluster temp track placeholder music instead.
I give it a 3/10 for this episode and series overall and that's being exceedingly generous. This entire series is an abomination,."
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Wokeney knew the series would be a flop. One of the writers had their original ideas taken by Wokeney, who then put all the baby Leia and Reva nonsense into it.
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Zoz says:
"Interesting how the writer also failed to broach the subject of why Solo flopped. It wasn't something that anybody could have prevented. It was the push back from Ryan (Ruin) Johnson and his bullshit movie."
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Shawn Carter says:
"They thought it would flop. Most of us knew it."
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Mauricio Rodriguez says:
"I remember that when I saw âThe force awakensâ I felt that something was not right about Disneyâs Star Wars when I saw the Reyâs flashback scene, because âflashbacksâ as a storytelling tool was never used in any of the other movies before. Back then we didnât need a flashback to know what Vader meant to old Ben Kenobi, or to know that was something really shady behind the creation of the clone army for example."
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Jamie Collins says:
"so this "show" was just a movie that was mercilessly chopped down into several tv episodes with massive budget cuts and reshoots to add content to it. No wonder it sucked so hard. Not saying the movie would be good but getting butchered like this isn't helping it."
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Mathisn't My Best Subject says:
"Well, it certainly flopped in the eyes of a lot of people. Disney was probably expecting it to flop because of racism, like they preemptively blamed us for. Tell you what, though: if they did in the show what they were going to do in the movies, they would have been correct."
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they live says:
"Kenobi was pure garbage, not sure how people are justifying it at all"
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Grand Muff Twerkin says:
"I've actually seen people trying to justify the Kenobi series making a near complete copy of the Vader vs Ahsoka fight by using the 'it's like poetry, it rhymes' defence.
Seriously, some people's kids đ€Ł"
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Rogue Fox says:
"I really hope this show doesnât get another season, it went out of itâs way to contradict the time period between EP3 and EP4 and it just caused so much damage to canon that you canât help but see plot holes everywhere."
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Phil Rivera says:
"They were right to be afraid. You can't hide the numbers for a movie. A big cinema flop makes for a huge disaster that is very difficult to spin. It's all out in the open. But a streaming show over several episodes is much easier to control the results, hide numbers, and shift blame all over the place."
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5891 Magnanimous Entropy says:
"So Lucasfilm is afraid. I guess Yoda was right then: âFear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.â âOnce you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny". Lucasfilm fell to the dark side the moment it came under Kennedy's control and now it is suffering."
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Animated Ink says:
"Well, it certainly did not meet expectations from both parties. But of course, Disneyâs pushing for a second season despite mixed to poor critical reception. Itâs just like Batwoman"
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ZenithStudio says:
"Disney starwars just isn't starwars. it's not filmed like it, it's not acted like it, there's just no heart or soul being put into it (except for Hayden and McGregor of course)"
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LuigiTheMetal64 says:
"People want good storytelling, good characters, and suiting visuals to be entertained. That is it. We will be saying that to remind ourselves since Disney never cares for who they claim it is for, let alone support."
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J Packer says:
"I was born in 81 and grew up with Star Wars as literally the earliest stories I knew. The Empire Strikes Back was complete sensory overload and the most completely engrossing tale I knew in my young life. It's so good, even nearly 4 decades later, it still grabs my whole attention and sucks me into that world. When I was a kid, I wanted so bad for the story to be real. I used to lay awake at night as a 6, 7, or 8 year old boy creating elaborate Star Wars fantasies in my mind until I fell asleep.
Retconning the original trilogy is completely unforgivable. They may own Star Wars, but the story doesn't belong to them. It belongs to the people in whose minds it has taken shape. They can do whatever they like with the new trash they make, but retconning the original story is completely unforgivable. It is creative and cultural vandalism. They are literally stealing a mythology from us. The people doing this and writing this garbage aren't even Star Wars fans. They change the story at will because they never knew it to begin with. It means nothing to them. Even worse, they're doing it to make a social and political point. It's sickening."
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Sama says:
"Ok, then listen to me:
-Declare that all the previous Disney's Star Wars content is not canon and you're going to start again from zero.
-Bring back the EU and declare it canon, because the fans from the George Lucas era have invested a lot of money in that content for decades and they feel betrayed.
-Fire all the people who have no talent (like 90% of your staff). -Fire all the people who insulted customers. There is no place for that behaviour in a company.
-Apologize for insulting customers.
-Apologize for betraying George Lucas.
-Apologize to all the actors who have been treated like crap.
-Make content for everyone, not just woke people from USA. Don't use your product to insult people based on their political ideology, religion, race, gender or sexuality. Negativity has no place in entertainment.
If you do that maybe I'll be interested in your Star Wars content again."
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Here, here!
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ChrisPeteG says:
"-After Return of the Jedi - Star Wars was over
- After Revenge of the Sith - Star Wars was truly complete
- When Star Wars was purchased by Disney and Lucas was done with it - Star Wars was turned into something it wasn't
- After The Last Jedi and The Ruse of Skywalker....Star Wars was dead
-After Mandalorian, some life had been rekindled
-They took that goodwill, fired Gina and announced a dozen shows nobody wanted
STAR WARS IS DEAD! LET IT REST IN PEACE!"
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I agree!
I'll continue to write SW crossover fanfiction with my friend, but that's it. Wokeney Star Warped is completely rejected from here. The real Star Wars does not exist in the film industry any more.
A turd with a light saber is still a turd.
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